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Subject: Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni}
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On 27 Sep 2014 15:48, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> The main reason I stopped using "le" is that I never knew when it was
supposed to be used. I would spend an inordinately long time trying to
decide each time I had to use a gadri which one to use, I was never
completely satisfied that I had made the right choice, and in the end it
didn't seem to make much difference anyway. So I abandoned "le" at least
until I have a clear idea of how it's supposed to work.

I understand {le broda} to be short for {lo co'e voi ke'a broda}, which is
probably equivalent to unbound {ko'a voi ke'a broda}, tho that depends on
whether unbound {ko'a} is interpreted as definite (like third person
pronouns). Do you disagree? If not, don't the {co'e} and, contingently, the
{voi} give a meaning usefully and intelligibly distinct from {lo broda}?

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 27 Sep 2014 15:48, &quot;Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; The main reason I stopped using &quot;le&quot; is that I never knew wh=
en it was supposed to be used. I would spend an inordinately long time tryi=
ng to decide each time I had to use a gadri which one to use, I was never c=
ompletely satisfied that I had made the right choice, and in the end it did=
n&#39;t seem to make much difference anyway. So I abandoned &quot;le&quot; =
at least until I have a clear idea of how it&#39;s supposed to work.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I understand {le broda} to be short for {lo co&#39;e voi ke&=
#39;a broda}, which is probably equivalent to unbound {ko&#39;a voi ke&#39;=
a broda}, tho that depends on whether unbound {ko&#39;a} is interpreted as =
definite (like third person pronouns). Do you disagree? If not, don&#39;t t=
he {co&#39;e} and, contingently, the {voi} give a meaning usefully and inte=
lligibly distinct from {lo broda}?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.</p>

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