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[216.109.115.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si1842889qcd.0.2014.09.27.12.57.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 216.109.115.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=216.109.115.177; Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2014 19:57:24 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.145] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2014 19:57:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2014 19:57:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 107385.97315.bm@omp1021.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26206 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2014 19:57:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4UnkO1EVM1mcxVJtcMH5jJ26rIrTfWrYj56U3B471xSB10O B1rpfHF9ahQJhrZbBMQcoMc1_2I80WrfPTPTHMMkrNSkpM43MmedGtDSSxQt YP_f5Wo1rETKjFbbmP0AsAW_cPYTWeo.VJ82mFexuehW1fosq23sD.mSr4j3 I3q0PKvRW.vRur1vAeNvh_1nCJ8bu4aNOgWBt1sdf1VXDVTczQGaqNlSOVjP 2YUFIZGhwekhLmjLNCPDau7Ky7oVuMtiHUWLUm_BI8XReKBlSzGiEavRSD5w vas.xT4snvPgTXCzBzGg_R5MP2fRp4gpJJFZ4lUJHpLuS0n3yyZZpboZWDZs ySkPHQ9cXVDYXwu7SlFg5.2p0wIjMUCvBfjL50ilQFstAFC8M_tZDpdCt.uO p9neGEOkxsdG8UbvIwFmXmd_A.SeGVBXh66RRTI03VWt4ll27n53qm_eX4lU w_30zSBoitAwlp7W80470inNQ9qs8l51TWrwOYYBZWHnqD_Eyhf1F_syCyp1 lBV0K1TfSCcJtDqoJxpdH8Fl5XNsxAzB3DK1dfxpeFZc.aGeicBmt.FIjHF3 9rYNm98B_.WjYA8M7fPJWDCC8XKCwd_Sv_P8.bK1Vnj4Yrmt82tG9wdpqUkl JAVRtzx58OtjILCRG7kXN6ie6hQtI.Icvw0kU7bUjQobSJrhvIF8DG2Pb2qK dLpKDfa8yHlm.zHoK69bIzWRHkd0lm_2jlGqL7q6a Received: from [99.92.109.82] by web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:57:23 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,V2VsbCwgdGhlcmUgd2FzIGp1c3Qgc29tZSBkaXNjdXNzaW9uIGFib3V0IExvamJhbiB0byBMb2dpYyBhbGdvcml0aG1zIGFuZCB0aGlzIGlzIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBzaWduIChpbiBxdWl0ZSBhIHdoaWxlIGF0IGxlYXN0KSB0aGF0IHNvbWVvbmUgaGFzIGF0IGxlYXN0IHRoZSBydWRpbWVudHMgb2YgdGhhdCBwcm9qZWN0IGluIGhhbmQuICBUaGFuayB5b3UgZm9yIHlvdXIgZWZmb3J0cyBhbmQga2VlcCB1cCB0aGUgZ29vZCB3b3JrIG9uIHRoaXMgY2VudHJhbCBwcm9qZWN0LgoKCk9uIFNhdHVyZGF5LCBTZXB0ZW0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.696 References: <20140927163121.GO28734@gonzales> <3c3b1c5e-cac2-42df-9d67-553a849789d3@googlegroups.com> <20140927192952.GS28734@gonzales> Message-ID: <1411847843.97783.YahooMailNeo@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:57:23 -0700 From: "'John E Clifford' via lojban" Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 216.109.115.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass header.i=@yahoo.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Original-From: John E Clifford Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-482694697-863200937-1411847843=:97783" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ---482694697-863200937-1411847843=:97783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, there was just some discussion about Lojban to Logic algorithms and t= his is the first sign (in quite a while at least) that someone has at least= the rudiments of that project in hand. Thank you for your efforts and kee= p up the good work on this central project. On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:40 PM, TR NS wrote: =20 On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:30:26 PM UTC-4, Martin Bays wrote: * Saturday, 2014-09-27 at 12:25 -0700 - TR NS :=20 > > >> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:31:55 PM UTC-4, Martin Bays wrote:=20 >> Very cool!=20 >>=20 >> Could you explain some of the notation, e.g.=20 >>=20 >> non-veridical: FA x1. (gerku(f0(x1)) /\ srana(f0(x1),x1))=20 >> EX x1. viska(f0(x1),mi)=20 > >Yeah, there's quite a bit to the notation. But it outputs a lojban=20 >version too, so you should be able to work out things mean by comparing=20 >the logic with the lojban.=20 > >To explain what's in your example:=20 >FA is for all=20 >EX is there exists=20 >/\ is and=20 >f0 is a function (glorked from context).=20 > > Thanks. That helps. Only the last one doesn't make sense to me. 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Well, there was just some discussion about Lojban = to Logic algorithms and this is the first sign (in quite a while at least) = that someone has at least the rudiments of that project in hand.  Than= k you for your efforts and keep up the good work on this central project.


On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:40 = PM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:


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On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:30:= 26 PM UTC-4, Martin Bays wrote:
* Saturday, 2014-09-27 at 12:25 -0700 - TR NS <tran...@gmail.com>:

> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:31:55 PM UTC-4, = Martin Bays wrote:
> Very cool!
>
> Could you explain some of the notation, e.g.
>
> non-veridical: FA x1. (gerku(f0(x1)) /\ srana(f0(x1= ),x1))
> EX x1. viska(f0(x1),mi)

Yeah, there's quite a bit to the notation. But it output= s a lojban
version too, so you should be able to work out things me= an by comparing
the logic with the lojban.

To explain what's in your example:
FA is for all
EX is there exists
/\ is and
f0 is a function (glorked from context).



Thanks. = That helps. Only the last one doesn't make sense to me. Is it something to = do with `le`?


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