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[69.249.31.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f6sm8137962qaq.38.2014.09.27.19.28.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 22:28:05 -0400 From: Alex Burka To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] CLL on CUhE and {nau} X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=durka42@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="54277235_288f1a34_114" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --54277235_288f1a34_114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi jbopre,=20 The selma'o CUhE contains two cmavo, namely the eponymous {cu'e} and also {= nau}. (Four if you count the experimentals {pu'au} and {ba'au}.) The CLL mentions CUhE in two places -- section 10.24, which talks about {cu= 'e} but not {nau}, and in the catalog of selma'o. The omission of {nau} in = 10.24 is too bad, but if we demanded the CLL cover all cmavo it would be to= o heavy to ship by Amazon drone. However, the catalog states that CUhE is f= or asking tense/modal questions. That's the function of {cu'e}, but not {na= u} (nor {pu'au}/{ba'au}, for that matter). Shouldn't the catalog say that C= UhE is for "combined space/time tenses", or something to that effect? I see from Nick Nicholas' note in jbovlaste that the current meaning of {na= u} came about in 1991, before which I suppose it was in LAU, making CUhE a = singleton selma'o, so perhaps that explains the selma'o catalog entry. I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I didn't see it i= n the CLL Errata page, and I searched the list for mention of CUhE and all = I found was the invention of {re'u} (which was pretty neat to see). mu'o mi'e la durka --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --54277235_288f1a34_114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
coi jbopre,

The selma'o CUhE contains two cma= vo, namely the eponymous {cu'e} and also {nau}. (Four if you count the expe= rimentals {pu'au} and {ba'au}.)

The CLL mentions C= UhE in two places -- section 10.24, which talks about {cu'e} but not {nau},= and in the catalog of selma'o. The omission of {nau} in 10.24 is too bad, = but if we demanded the CLL cover all cmavo it would be too heavy to ship by= Amazon drone. However, the catalog states that CUhE is for asking tense/mo= dal questions. That's the function of {cu'e}, but not {nau} (nor {pu'au}/{b= a'au}, for that matter). Shouldn't the catalog say that CUhE is for "combin= ed space/time tenses", or something to that effect?

I see from Nick Nicholas' note in jbovlaste that the current meaning of {= nau} came about in 1991, before which I suppose it was in LAU, making CUhE = a singleton selma'o, so perhaps that explains the selma'o catalog entry.

I apologize in advance if this has been discussed be= fore. I didn't see it in the CLL Errata page, and I searched the list for m= ention of CUhE and all I found was the invention of {re'u} (which was prett= y neat to see).

mu'o mi'e la durka

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