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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban's leadership and how I don't give a shit
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2014-09-28 19:51 GMT+04:00 Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>:

> I vote Aye. My position on all do-ocracy will always be "Aye".
>
> Let me be clear on what I do not care about. I am actually much _less_
> concerned about the quality of the language than just finishing something.
> I want to make the following:
> - A simple non-comprehensive dictionary.
> - Standardized testing in Lojban expertise.
> - Games and stories in which characters communicate with the player/reader
> in Lojban.
> - A website that would drill its users daily in Lojban grammar.
>
> I would love to make those projects. But Lojbanists are reluctant because
> the language has some incomplete areas.
>

Wait, I dont understand. You are not doing it because Lojban has incomplete
areas? But all languages have them.

Let's start now with e.g. lojban expertise test. If you have any questions
ask them here. If you are shy send me private e-mails.
I'm half way of filling the gimste with usage examples so a simple
dictionary (your first project) is already in progress on *my* todo list.
But the second and the fourth projects are interesting to me. So shall we
start now?


I say, amputate entire selma'o that are unclear, give it official blessing
> as 1.0, and say "we'll put those selma'o back in for v2.0". Then let us get
> on with the concrete goals I listed above. Until then, Lojban is useless,
> and therefore, the will of the people is irrelevant, and our democratic
> votes does not matter, and the opinion of the language founders doesn't
> matter any more than James Cook Brown, because there's no point.
>
> Just do it, selpa'i. Do anything. I don't care what you do. Just break us
> out of the paralysis, call it "finished version 1" and let's move on.
>
> -Eppcott
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-09-28 19:51 GMT+04:00 Matt Arnold <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">matt.mattarn@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote Aye=
. My position on all do-ocracy will always be &quot;Aye&quot;.=C2=A0<div><b=
r></div><div>Let me be clear on what I do not care about. I am actually muc=
h _less_ concerned about the quality of the language than just finishing so=
mething. I want to make the following:<div>- A simple non-comprehensive dic=
tionary.<br>- Standardized testing in Lojban expertise.<br>- Games and stor=
ies in which characters communicate with the player/reader in Lojban.<br>- =
A website that would drill its users daily in Lojban grammar.</div><div><br=
></div><div><div>I would love to make those projects. But Lojbanists are re=
luctant because the language has some incomplete areas.</div></div></div></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wait, I dont understand. You are not d=
oing it because Lojban has incomplete areas? But all languages have them.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Let&#39;s start now with e.g. lojban expertise test=
. If you have any questions ask them here. If you are shy send me private e=
-mails.</div><div>I&#39;m half way of filling the gimste with usage example=
s so a simple dictionary (your first project) is already in progress on *my=
* todo list. But the second and the fourth projects are interesting to me. =
So shall we start now?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div> I say, amputate entire selma=
&#39;o that are unclear, give it official blessing as 1.0, and say &quot;we=
&#39;ll put those selma&#39;o back in for v2.0&quot;. Then let us get on wi=
th the concrete goals I listed above. Until then, Lojban is useless, and th=
erefore, the will of the people is irrelevant, and our democratic votes doe=
s not matter, and the opinion of the language founders doesn&#39;t matter a=
ny more than James Cook Brown, because there&#39;s no point.=C2=A0</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Just do it, selpa&#39;i. Do anything. I don&#39;t care wha=
t you do. Just break us out of the paralysis, call it &quot;finished versio=
n 1&quot; and let&#39;s move on.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>-Eppcott<di=
v><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb">=
<div class=3D"h5">

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