Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 01:59:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: New soi's scope
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On Monday, September 29, 2014 4:24:47 AM UTC-4, And Rosta wrote:
>
>
> On 29 Sep 2014 04:45, "TR NS" <tran...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:17:43 PM UTC-4, la durka wrote:
> >> la selpa'i has some discussion in the second half of this post.
> >
> >
> > Thank you, so much. THAT is an explanation. I finally understand {voi}.
> >
> > So, where as {poi} is an "identifier", narrowing down the possible 
> identity of the referent, {voi} is a "qualifier". It doesn't restrict the 
> identity, but selects the quality of the referent that makes it pertinent. 
> Another translations besides simply "as" might be "in so far as".
>
> That is a different proposal than the one for using /voi/ for {poi'i}, 
> which is the one you hadn't understood.
>

Wait, that's a different "new voi" proposal? And both proposed by la 
selpa'i?
 

>  It struck me as quite reasonable and understandable that you, newish to 
> these topics, didn't understand that proposal, but not that you blamed the 
> proposer for that.
>
Am I reading that right? Instead of explaining, you are taking the time to 
rub my face in it? 

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Monday, September 29, 2014 4:24:47 AM UTC-4, And Rosta =
wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8=
ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 29 Sep 2014 04:45, "TR NS" &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank"=
 gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"bb0XDKN1Ng8J" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'javascr=
ipt:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">tran=
...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:17:43 PM UTC-4, la durka wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; la selpa'i has some discussion in the second half of this post.<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thank you, so much. THAT is an explanation. I finally understand {voi}=
.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So, where as {poi} is an "identifier", narrowing down the possible ide=
ntity of the referent, {voi} is a "qualifier". It doesn't restrict the iden=
tity, but selects the quality of the referent that makes it pertinent. Anot=
her translations besides simply "as" might be "in so far as".<br></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">That is a different proposal than the one for using /voi/ fo=
r {poi'i}, which is the one you hadn't understood.</p></blockquote><div><br=
></div><div>Wait, that's a different "new voi" proposal? And both proposed =
by la selpa'i?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
 1ex;"><p dir=3D"ltr"> </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">It struck me as quite reasonable and understandable that you=
, newish to these topics, didn't understand that proposal, but not that you=
 blamed the proposer for that.</p></blockquote><div>Am I reading that right=
? Instead of explaining, you are taking the time to rub my face in it?&nbsp=
;</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;=
margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
</blockquote></div>

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