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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:22:45 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni}
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On further consideration, I agree it's not useless. But
>
> (1) For every relative, noi, poi, ne, pe, no'u, po'u (that list from
> memory -- hope it's right) a nonveridical counterpart would be at least as
> useful as voi--poi is.
>
There's also "po" and "po'e", with no non-restrictive counterparts. Neither
of them is used much, and when "po'e" is used, it can almost always be more
perspicuously replaced by "be", since it's usually things like "lo xance
po'e ko'a" instead of "lo xance be ko'a".  "ne" is also not used much.)

I suppose a nonveridical version of "no'u" (which is short for "noi ke'a
du", would be short for "noi ke'a kinda"?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, And Rosta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:and.rosta@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">and.rosta@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
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On further consideration, I agree it&#39;s not useless. But</p>
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 (that list from memory -- hope it&#39;s right) a nonveridical counterpart =
would be at least as useful as voi--poi is.</p></blockquote><div>There&#39;=
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nterparts. Neither of them is used much, and when &quot;po&#39;e&quot; is u=
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instead of &quot;lo xance be ko&#39;a&quot;. =C2=A0&quot;ne&quot; is also n=
ot used much.)</div><div><br></div><div>I suppose a nonveridical version of=
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d be short for &quot;noi ke&#39;a kinda&quot;?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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