Received: from mail-yh0-f56.google.com ([209.85.213.56]:53259) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XYjqR-0006CN-Q1 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:55:08 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f56.google.com with SMTP id z6sf450193yhz.11 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YP+TeLIBnCm18xVR0MuArYuFFb3SumOec8GhaaxMXZo=; b=vqqlfivy0U2MsoXwfiP2r/tCX4DhAZXY+/vePU5Hr76U0JMLxg0MPNvVRrX/CO3ncd js6koKxkm0O4wRg07fVS0nQPW4cZtkqV0FaXpECqC5NsUCrISptRQ2vxEV5Lq9mWtQQW 7AguCTUXRymGpTZzGVtCDENNfn4ivenBFI9C5Nz5iM6axjssctNLJeJpjI3fkTgLUrFL JWDvoWBB5ByzySGK92hdTFVv8NLhsi4x2woH8aa4ZZWzAyFaTPekXNJA6jqgIqmlAkJl HP6zlnNbw05VcQAub29hyPqDKSOt2IgErWDxtT1Md0jRhtkxNW5tEyMZGQrfGCUYEfob P4/Q== X-Received: by 10.50.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr28894igi.14.1412031297254; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.50.196 with SMTP id e4ls2524625igo.7.gmail; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.85.198 with SMTP id ap6mr39753712icc.29.1412031296959; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com (mail-qg0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si2949818qcm.2.2014.09.29.15.54.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e; Received: by mail-qg0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id a108so1049675qge.33 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.37.9 with SMTP id q9mr62612059qgq.40.1412031296828; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.30.132 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5427DCE6.9020900@gmx.de> <0019ea31-f581-4531-930b-12bf30c421a9@googlegroups.com> <54297B9D.8040906@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 18:54:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {poi'i} From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1358adbf9fb05043c2777 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c1358adbf9fb05043c2777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thank you, Ilmen! Blessings and many Karma points for your troubles. > > So basically it is a way to define a new selbri on the fly. Is that about > the short of it? > More or less. Probably a cleaner, more fundamental way to think about it is just like {me'au lo ka}, except it binds {ke'a} instead of {ce'u}. Since it's always unary, if you don't like {me'au} you can use {ckaji}. Note that {me'au lo ka} is really closer to making a selbri on the fly, since a formal definition of a brivla in Lojban is best written as {lo ka broda cu ka ...}, where we are defining {broda}. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c1358adbf9fb05043c2777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you, Ilmen! Blessings and many Karma points for your trouble= s.

So basically it is a way to define a new selbri= on the fly. Is that about the short of it?
Mo= re or less. Probably a cleaner, more fundamental way to think about it is j= ust like {me'au lo ka}, except it binds {ke'a} instead of {ce'u= }. Since it's always unary, if you don't like {me'au} you can u= se {ckaji}.

Note that {me'au lo ka} is really closer = to making a selbri on the fly, since a formal definition of a brivla in Loj= ban is best written as {lo ka broda cu ka ...}, where we are defining {brod= a}.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o
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