Received: from mail-wi0-f185.google.com ([209.85.212.185]:59292) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XYsca-000406-B9 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:25 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f185.google.com with SMTP id d1sf193936wiv.2 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yOAWuE3OghHQXm5ucMkPERrJu+R+Kll66PSadyuIAYY=; b=tRWbitt3yPtlK6Nit8TCcpHPfi5ecGZglyZEcwlwWj6+k66ItEcmgcONtNIQCbBKnJ aIuseNaHxAClLFZzc0OlgWG32Q7zlsvhCKyeYYe1b/8f4Pp1fr0kN+u8XVxqt4DaCyXb v4uME5G2HigyAWKRM7TaPX5lJhhPt7ZKy56784E6msKId379x/7cSLIL6OwxZWUO5ImM gac63vHIJDMQjjUEi7MhxKDn2XU463DacC5AgV/8qidbd8gwx53RiV0JNQhs8yXw7yif LMjlTd/T1Bk+XCwJikQjh4A1fuNnGYBDkrl9BaezbKI9VUwy6FUWe4N4TWiX3QuDyIUo Jvsw== X-Received: by 10.152.28.66 with SMTP id z2mr842608lag.3.1412065032818; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.20.6 with SMTP id j6ls12217lae.24.gmail; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.21.137 with SMTP id v9mr6703761lae.1.1412065031719; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f9si504541wib.2.2014.09.30.01.17.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::232; Received: by mail-wg0-x232.google.com with SMTP id l18so13571336wgh.21 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.58.108 with SMTP id p12mr52120041wjq.71.1412065031637; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.208] ([2.31.159.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eg8sm14288137wib.15.2014.09.30.01.17.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <542A6734.7010608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:17:56 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120711 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni} References: <5427DCE6.9020900@gmx.de> <4004291.GPfs8n1fLZ@caracal> <54295019.6010707@gmx.de> <54298F49.8000708@gmail.com> <5429A27F.1040906@gmx.de> <5447269e-70a3-4825-9d3d-40b7a9e24876@googlegroups.com> <5429F175.40000@gmx.de> <33a2ae53-9114-4f4d-a0c1-145a1db7dcf3@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <33a2ae53-9114-4f4d-a0c1-145a1db7dcf3@googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - TR NS, On 30/09/2014 01:39: > First, let me say that JCB doesn't appear to take any account of > veridicality. "On the view taken in this book, no claim whatever is made by a description." This is from the passage you quoted. --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.