Received: from mail-ie0-f184.google.com ([209.85.223.184]:44307) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XYvdy-0006JH-7w for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:31:02 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f184.google.com with SMTP id tr6sf690403ieb.11 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:30:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EB3bozXkx2dQfxGApSCs2oFBmNOMpVYlkFw/v+cJCHQ=; b=Yvr4nDBozeMFi22uEl3lUXAETuiHxBSbX57RuFJb+C8xaqIE6EUpGjpSpKcpTEnJyj pOQiutMxJQQGA+EmcrrRlEVhgK2j3Or2Q6SmcunmliJjLfXB7VvErqotpPLEyZffuJJV 7jRQN70yH34Xy+lTBsFx1bDcBIxBVds20AR3tUrev7olGtNpOGYAc3olRumDR+plc/+J 6em9/Uw0fxdEjsSIsV2/tEvqki2IpANKtKv4Fk0ZZFv70C3dKDHiuM6j/RXzNUtuEoBC NQaS3TXJAAZbmXmA6udRCYnzzLjbpYNNF4h7eOHmaNTtnRc2dSpe6jH8anQDMEK7R3cD zmZw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EB3bozXkx2dQfxGApSCs2oFBmNOMpVYlkFw/v+cJCHQ=; b=kwNTOtw6gGNpMuOq93nmeKC8WWKOb63TMrlCVitnhX99T3l74rDV1/k6YMqsAq2uZb xRtsbfUoYgfGEVK7hSyNyUpVr/Iw/e4hg67aFfgqjviEfwwmshm5wQ0MR53JRhiZ8J+H brlaMyuMZZRRKUEp1V/74zMn4tupA35tDd59KjtcOP1BZHDfe60oC8m7SN3b+P4RK+bU 8CSJKVijghNY62fVUnvz6lWGiXls0FXBvcI6xfq40uUjGNQl5+lkq25t47+mV175owyX Lf1PiCPgazV5qZVf91T0xsl2JGjdz1q+yjjs/5cQMAsWhbp/ZNIk+LPZ0LJTo4evIvl6 eG/Q== X-Received: by 10.140.80.210 with SMTP id c76mr503qgd.18.1412076650885; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.86.163 with SMTP id p32ls20591qgd.44.gmail; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.98.237 with SMTP id o100mr448qge.37.1412076650613; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:30:49 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <542A6734.7010608@gmail.com> References: <5427DCE6.9020900@gmx.de> <4004291.GPfs8n1fLZ@caracal> <54295019.6010707@gmx.de> <54298F49.8000708@gmail.com> <5429A27F.1040906@gmx.de> <5447269e-70a3-4825-9d3d-40b7a9e24876@googlegroups.com> <5429F175.40000@gmx.de> <33a2ae53-9114-4f4d-a0c1-145a1db7dcf3@googlegroups.com> <542A6734.7010608@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4105_330942131.1412076649692" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_4105_330942131.1412076649692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:17:14 AM UTC-4, And Rosta wrote: > > TR NS, On 30/09/2014 01:39: > > First, let me say that JCB doesn't appear to take any account of > > veridicality. > > "On the view taken in this book, no claim whatever is made by a > description." This is from the passage you quoted. > > Good point. I wonder if JCB would say that you can't really reference anything veridically, which is why there is no way to do is in Loglan? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_4105_330942131.1412076649692 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:17:14 AM UTC-4, A= nd Rosta wrote:
TR NS, On 30/09= /2014 01:39:
> First, let me say that JCB doesn't appear to take any account of
> veridicality.

"On the view taken in this book, no claim whatever is made by a descrip= tion." This is from the passage you quoted.


Good point.

I= wonder if JCB would say that you can't really reference anything veridical= ly, which is why there is no way to do is in Loglan?



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