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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:39:48 +0200
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Say what?  That is exactly what {lo} does.

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On Sep 30, 2014, at 13:30, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

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> 
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:17:14 AM UTC-4, And Rosta wrote:
> TR NS, On 30/09/2014 01:39: 
> > First, let me say that JCB doesn't appear to take any account of 
> > veridicality. 
> 
> "On the view taken in this book, no claim whatever is made by a description." This is from the passage you quoted. 
> 
> 
> Good point.
> 
> I wonder if JCB would say that you can't really reference anything veridically, which is why there is no way to do is in Loglan?
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Say what? &nbsp;That is e=
xactly what {lo} does.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 30, 20=
14, at 13:30, TR NS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:transfire@gmail.com">transfire@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:17:14 AM UTC-4=
, And Rosta wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;marg=
in-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">TR NS, On 30=
/09/2014 01:39:
<br>&gt; First, let me say that JCB doesn't appear to take any account of
<br>&gt; veridicality.
<br>
<br>"On the view taken in this book, no claim whatever is made by a descrip=
tion." This is from the passage you quoted.
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good point.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
 wonder if JCB would say that you can't really reference anything veridical=
ly, which is why there is no way to do is in Loglan?</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br></div></div>

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