Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Still confused about what {clakufa} is.
So, I'm going to try to construct the first sentence of the theory, which 
is "Let R be an open rectangle centered at (a,b) with length L  and height 
H in which f(x,y) is smooth."
I believe {va'o} would be useful here, but the definition doesn't make a 
lot of sense to me
On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:21:08 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 05:12:29 Romaji #### wrote: 
> > two questions 
> > 
> >    1. does that show the precise mathematical concept as a sumti? 
> >    2. How would that be broken down in English? Or with split lujivo? 
>
> It's a selbri. To get a sumti, precede it with an article. 
>
> {kortolvau} is a lujvo of {korbi to'e vasru}, "boundary opposite-of 
> containing". Substituting the other members of NAhE or zero we get: 
> korvau: x1 is closed 
> korbi zei je'a zei vasru ({je'a} has no rafsi): x1 is indeed closed 
> kornalvau: x1 is not closed 
> kornorvau: x1 is neither closed nor open 
> and there are two experimental cmavo in the selma'o, which I'll ignore. 
> This 
> leaves "not open" and "clopen", which are {na'e kortolvau} and, I guess, 
> {to'e 
> kornorvau}. Another possibility for "clopen" is {korcau}, "lacking a 
> boundary". Sets that consist entirely of boundary, such as the Julia set 
> of i, 
> could be called {nercau}. 
>
> Pierre 
> -- 
> Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. 
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Still confused about what {clakufa} is.</div><div>So,=
 I'm going to try to construct the first sentence of the theory, which is "=
Let R be an open rectangle centered at (a,b) with length L &nbsp;and height=
 H in which f(x,y) is smooth."</div><div>I believe {va'o} would be useful h=
ere, but the definition doesn't make a lot of sense to me<br>On Tuesday, Se=
ptember 30, 2014 9:21:08 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:<blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 05:12:29 Romaji ####=
 wrote:
<br>&gt; two questions
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;1. does that show the precise mathematical concept as=
 a sumti?
<br>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;2. How would that be broken down in English? Or with =
split lujivo?
<br>
<br>It's a selbri. To get a sumti, precede it with an article.
<br>
<br>{kortolvau} is a lujvo of {korbi to'e vasru}, "boundary opposite-of=20
<br>containing". Substituting the other members of NAhE or zero we get:
<br>korvau: x1 is closed
<br>korbi zei je'a zei vasru ({je'a} has no rafsi): x1 is indeed closed
<br>kornalvau: x1 is not closed
<br>kornorvau: x1 is neither closed nor open
<br>and there are two experimental cmavo in the selma'o, which I'll ignore.=
 This=20
<br>leaves "not open" and "clopen", which are {na'e kortolvau} and, I guess=
, {to'e=20
<br>kornorvau}. Another possibility for "clopen" is {korcau}, "lacking a=20
<br>boundary". Sets that consist entirely of boundary, such as the Julia se=
t of i,=20
<br>could be called {nercau}.
<br>
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.
<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div>

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