Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: {le} as an anaphorical particle
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:25:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
>
> It is in no way a proposal but just a thought mildly based on former usage
>
>
> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=%27%27%27le%27%27%27_as_an_anaphorical_particle
>
> For other proposals regarding {le} with full explanations add here: 
> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=le
>

If one mentions something that is not in any previous utterance, does "look 
up" fall back to context? And beyond that if there is no clear referent, 
then is the thing presupposed? To clarify, if I said out of the blue, "le 
xirma cu bajra", do you just presuppose some horse exists?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:25:19 AM UTC-4, l=
a gleki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-l=
eft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>It is in no way a proposal but just a thought mildly based on former usage=
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=3D%27%2=
7%27le%27%27%27_as_an_anaphorical_particle" target=3D"_blank" onmousedown=
=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fmw.lojban.org%2=
Findex.php%3Ftitle%3D%2527%2527%2527le%2527%2527%2527_as_an_anaphorical_par=
ticle\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNEULsd4WDcNUBCJ0VjcNc58gdHO2Q';retu=
rn true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%=
2Fmw.lojban.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3D%2527%2527%2527le%2527%2527%2527_as_a=
n_anaphorical_particle\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNEULsd4WDcNUBCJ0Vj=
cNc58gdHO2Q';return true;">http://mw.lojban.org/index.<wbr>php?title=3D%27%=
27%27le%27%27%<wbr>27_as_an_anaphorical_particle</a><br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>For other proposals regarding {le} with full explanations add here:&=
nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=3Dle" target=3D"_blank=
" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fmw=
.lojban.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3Dle\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNE9k=
NbnvqzYOkPooSxbkO9ORCNcNw';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www=
.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fmw.lojban.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3Dle\46s=
a\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNE9kNbnvqzYOkPooSxbkO9ORCNcNw';return true;"=
>http://mw.lojban.org/<wbr>index.php?title=3Dle</a></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br></div><div>If one mentions something that is not in any previous =
utterance, does "look up" fall back to context? And beyond that if there is=
 no clear referent, then is the thing presupposed? To clarify, if I said ou=
t of the blue, "le xirma cu bajra", do you just presuppose some horse exist=
s?</div><div><br></div></div>

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