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From: "Romaji ####" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nxt101@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nxt101@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nxt101@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136b2b622a30f050451fb98 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1136b2b622a30f050451fb98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Uh... I don't believe I'm ready to translate that. I'm only beginning. Also, why say it's a long square/rectangle, when the dimensions are arbitrary, so it might be tall, or it might be even a square? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 09:48:24 Romaji #### wrote: > > Still confused about what {clakufa} is. > > So, I'm going to try to construct the first sentence of the theory, which > > is "Let R be an open rectangle centered at (a,b) with length L and > height > > H in which f(x,y) is smooth." > > I believe {va'o} would be useful here, but the definition doesn't make a > > lot of sense to me > > {clakurfa} is a lujvo from {clani kurfa}. Length and height are a bit > problematic, since the Lojban words for dimensions {clani ce'o ganra ce'o > rotsu} are in order of magnitude, irrespective of orientation. I think > there > ought to be a set of words for dimensions by orientation. > > Translate the sentence and let us look at it. > > Pierre > -- > I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/Skj96x290Cw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Uh... I don't believe I'm ready to translate that.=
I'm only beginning.
Also, why say it's a long square= /rectangle, when the dimensions are arbitrary, so it might be tall, or it m= ight be even a square?

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezit= opo.org> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 09:48:24 Romaji #### wrote:
> Still confused about what {clakufa} is.
> So, I'm going to try to construct the first sentence of the theory= , which
> is "Let R be an open rectangle centered at (a,b) with length L=C2= =A0 and height
> H in which f(x,y) is smooth."
> I believe {va'o} would be useful here, but the definition doesn= 9;t make a
> lot of sense to me

{clakurfa} is a lujvo from {clani kurfa}. Length and height are a bi= t
problematic, since the Lojban words for dimensions {clani ce'o ganra ce= 'o
rotsu} are in order of magnitude, irrespective of orientation. I think ther= e
ought to be a set of words for dimensions by orientation.

Translate the sentence and let us look at it.

Pierre
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I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wal= es.

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