Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni}
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I'm confused, because you seem to be complaining that loi/lei invokes a=20
Platonic form instead of grouping some individuals "all together" into a=20
mass, but the latter _is_ exactly what it does.

The platonic form may or may not be captured by lo'e/le'e (seems reasonable=
=20
to me, though ba'anai it's a contentious point).

The cmavo you were looking for is {lu'o}.

mu'o mi'e la durka

El martes, 30 de septiembre de 2014 22:08:25 UTC-4, TR NS escribi=C3=B3:
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>
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> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:52:19 PM UTC-4, TR NS wrote:
>>
>> rather I expect there to be another word that means "all together", for=
=20
>> argument sake say "ro" means that, so "ro lo" would be what I'd use.
>>
>> =20
> Actually that should be "ro le", to mean "the".
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm confused, because you seem to be complaining that loi/=
lei invokes a Platonic form instead of grouping some individuals "all toget=
her" into a mass, but the latter _is_ exactly what it does.<br><br>The plat=
onic form may or may not be captured by lo'e/le'e (seems reasonable to me, =
though ba'anai it's a contentious point).<br><br>The cmavo you were looking=
 for is {lu'o}.<br><br>mu'o mi'e la durka<br><br>El martes, 30 de septiembr=
e de 2014 22:08:25 UTC-4, TR NS escribi=C3=B3:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:5=
2:19 PM UTC-4, TR NS wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>rather I expect there to be another word that means "all toge=
ther", for argument sake say "ro" means that, so "ro lo" would be what I'd =
use.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Actually =
that should be "ro le", to mean "the".</div></div></blockquote></div>

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