Received: from mail-yk0-f192.google.com ([209.85.160.192]:48033) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ9iQ-0000wE-Qs for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:38 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f192.google.com with SMTP id 9sf28256ykp.9 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZlJNr+wBdoQ5gOTOzlYoLNQA1DiclGO8YjOGDge9WZg=; b=zDdecXMrDLVR8P1D888nCygfMiLkBQx/YjmuVdKbG4sVaziPbc/QQnrL9t49AS4f6I jHU/LXLZf3ouXk1srZeH4GjGaQUJu8h7STpUVcsizQpfh+/eQIcaS/oBh4SjmMZQCX+E T//kJ8MODru7W/bZB03bcw5o1k5/atulFsNgdDw0zp/fw7FnYQHf0LWd0XdYg6ZurKbr sjIabmU3f/UvLzjgEBqIeX8Oem5xUVuVJ0T8AT61in23QIXxzZFBlK9C1T26NbzkOUHT IKXg0j2vl8jGvHRUHyKk6icBwpkel8pBondW+mEiFegD+TYQQEuJ6fW2Q/8o+l4Tuxn1 w8gw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZlJNr+wBdoQ5gOTOzlYoLNQA1DiclGO8YjOGDge9WZg=; b=mB2aZIODzJLR0GiQP9QirOAZcSPwgPLE1MoFcm+NO36AhuzrmXektAKep/ps2iulqH d69SWXneIBhCE62+5I+4xKrBKRPiLHUgijppjK+8FdbFz3HGOMkBIrhlu9Ld6INKJSyH g8jNKmvuoHUdXJpjU3ypsn4c1PSrj/umwM+GFceKD/Pdp8BLn97LBgE8hLOp0dIPSDCW KVvp0Zs/BBPBt9bW7Pczfu02BGFMz2Y67gnpTSDsXNhsxmLGGmOSCk5HsoEh6mgLrPMm pvmzQVr/0vQrDZGF3NL4/pk0ByfmAWnTzG4S4PKWDZwPh1Z2dXOJ1k+Q7dwA3x6/8s2Z VgAg== X-Received: by 10.50.50.148 with SMTP id c20mr177789igo.15.1412130744427; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.138.199 with SMTP id qs7ls3314290igb.14.canary; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr178905igi.14.1412130744160; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Lacewell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0c5af057-21dd-4500-8020-84890f44ef8f@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <41aea447-a409-4218-abb4-f5f40d056d67@googlegroups.com> References: <34b2a9f0-7ccb-4135-8795-7038cc996b42@googlegroups.com> <41aea447-a409-4218-abb4-f5f40d056d67@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: DLacewell@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1719_70037414.1412130741271" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_1719_70037414.1412130741271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 So, there are things to say about groups and sets and plural and partial distributivity and so on but those are indeed largely irrelevant to the semantics of {le}. We can decide what those semantics (pavmei a'o) are and then apply those to our conceptualization of {loi} {lei} {lo'i} and {lo'e} and friends. I guess I'm saying that's largely off topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1719_70037414.1412130741271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, there are things to say about groups and sets and plur= al and partial distributivity and so on but those are indeed largely irrele= vant to the semantics of {le}. We can decide what those semantics (pavmei a= 'o) are and then apply those to our conceptualization of {loi} {lei} {lo'i}= and {lo'e} and friends. I guess I'm saying that's largely off topic.

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