Received: from mail-pd0-f192.google.com ([209.85.192.192]:49449) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XZCOv-0001vq-8z for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:37 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f192.google.com with SMTP id v10sf12756pde.29 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9LNJVWuJLb3ksLFB6U7qN8RVGx4S+y0MzkUSDq3o4Vw=; b=TvKFUmlWuafbt7kkQ2/K7CqajhqV24M7ouS2LBH44Ey1P9OZ1Gkjs74MbCDSXs9RE/ ndSZfG0L/oK34gxByJR6ECHlS9dA0SGJPXNAD0GxwE/JCBr2w01aLtQt9M5LCSVuKFYP JKYBmSmjNKzwrTTXzztw163B8mPVLqQOSGSJhxKkkJyYfO0f9b7b6jxAXmt38Lj6vnRb WQR8+lBJDE9SsRLc9UQhw53NlzxFG4RFbiqiky8o7kobsLbDl1OFZTCfmQDM3Cx/Hg0V +kEJJgkULo+BOdhx0AAbVdtBpTTZ0ACpR9EnQiFNvVG/K88GvVEOLlbcqhWGibyoww81 vZfQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9LNJVWuJLb3ksLFB6U7qN8RVGx4S+y0MzkUSDq3o4Vw=; b=nISM/5ZCT7Wil4bjKDmHZuX4CfxfNimpsSI+VK6ga1hUlgnmox+oOFRzzDkjePegjn f8TQIe3kvPMqpmNDCcjX96BVWDOhTf6RBPDDOORFc/MO1X3Gz0rtYAMNXgUOnxGCdUtl 2W2pVNuoHsLp69dNUQxDitEqSGPoknEPkQf9cp5EfTWj6IByDJJ1QMwSgy1d1s6mlIUj bulJ2W4OBvPicVlxidPVV1IL0alT3P0estCcyTUVJx/j3hFOeZ1puwXEbK5BfD1GoBW0 RgSWn7hDMHk+Gmb7U5P9b7BxcyrAEluWOAD2qyOEa0V6XiwYU7mDGwFsz2MFunMZxbcO rhNw== X-Received: by 10.140.36.234 with SMTP id p97mr1912qgp.14.1412141066760; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.16.99 with SMTP id 90ls374662qga.62.gmail; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.91.181 with SMTP id z50mr1691qgd.20.1412141066485; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <6bba57e4-592d-415f-8542-3f20c06fbe94@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <34b2a9f0-7ccb-4135-8795-7038cc996b42@googlegroups.com> <41aea447-a409-4218-abb4-f5f40d056d67@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3233_447858509.1412141065783" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_3233_447858509.1412141065783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:31:39 PM UTC-4, la durka wrote: > > I'm confused, because you seem to be complaining that loi/lei invokes a > Platonic form instead of grouping some individuals "all together" into a > mass, but the latter _is_ exactly what it does. > No, I am saying exactly the opposite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_3233_447858509.1412141065783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:31:39 PM UTC-4, = la durka wrote:
I'm confused, because you seem to be complaining that loi/lei invokes a P= latonic form instead of grouping some individuals "all together" into a mas= s, but the latter _is_ exactly what it does.
No, I am saying exactly the opposite.
 

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