Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:41237) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJ6r-0006Yo-8s for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 05:34:28 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f189.google.com with SMTP id vb8sf101090obc.6 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=D2rKPvwVg5h1pckTfdolQMea07A27rt+oMf1MlNLxGc=; b=qDudldyTpw10DgOFO1x1T9Xma2oXQVNFFZy7EDFrXzI5YbNTt4bQ3aTw9OAY1WHxH+ E1UvkFAbpPJ9nL9ffrI2rbfd2t8yDt64DJXl9+oiB7GBpcWY9WM7yvYAnwu6ECXqXyYg +BBs4KH92E+fHnzqpa/bvoV860b8X09a4pSV8uuolLD1Cq1qNXVm9retSKHwpMOTNpcl U7YGwvTRpA6qNkMqZ4N9BOPV1vlhP7OIhfCb2CDeIlgF2WkDGCzoyifnEA6H6e0QLike 26sWXx5bz5/evJWkki4AjTe74gSWKpKCRrn1tVYUfoPdk97K1uXteLB6y6RjbIQM5Plj BIZA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=D2rKPvwVg5h1pckTfdolQMea07A27rt+oMf1MlNLxGc=; b=gLTeBV2GbY8ATOatPGRQMycZwM7153wm3YmeWUvr7VEFjxCoAPlQeS2K9F47R3SHes lVrKRMqqL+4hJaE/oXVXdBjm8nfW1qFZZ+MKXm9yMyGwBWwo9mEBACEd68KJA0dOc6u8 W8P/Yl5oIUt5gzL00+Y6VpLyuGa5bcu/5Xndbtz2jZjg+K8LICwsyCNYZM4g8FZ+eX5p Edq2QKVT8iwyBDDqwxdlaUFB28QOvxW8OfFEcVpkeMuQwz7lDyaBt9UuIe5yisyWsi5A 7YehIW0SopLGkLPY6G8IZN0GaVDo1H1Lflfx/G3cu7Q5J2Df+Gt+Ow62oDx6q2cHTdch h/Gg== X-Received: by 10.140.98.237 with SMTP id o100mr427qge.37.1412166854343; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.43.198 with SMTP id e64ls421913qga.23.gmail; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.19.173 with SMTP id 42mr728qgh.32.1412166854071; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 05:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: mukti To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <6bd8575e-c402-45e4-983d-7bc48e8dec3e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20141001075910.GU14210@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20141001075910.GU14210@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: [lojban] Re: CLL: I'd like to drop the formal grammars. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: shunpiker@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_282_2117674148.1412166853502" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_282_2117674148.1412166853502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:59:12 AM UTC-3, Robin Powell wrote: > In the age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal > Grammars chapter simply doesn't belong in a printed book. > Does anyone disagree? > At more than 100 pages (more than 10% of page count) in the current build, it adds a lot weight but does not offer proportionate value. Which is to say, I agree. It's not likely to serve readers who aren't conversant in formal grammars, whereas those who are familiar with such things may not find the print format readable: I know I don't. I agree with v4hn that the EBNF grammar is worth more consideration than the YACC grammar, but mostly because at only 20 pages it is less burdensome, and not because I think print is ultimately a dignified or useful format for it. mi'e la mukti mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_282_2117674148.1412166853502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:59:12 AM UTC-3, Robin= Powell wrote:
In the= age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal
Grammars chapter simply doesn't belong in a printed book.
Does anyone disagree?

At more than 100 pages (more than 10% of pa= ge count) in the current build, it adds a lot weight but does not offer pro= portionate value. Which is to say, I agree. It's not likely to serve reader= s who aren't conversant in formal grammars, whereas those who are familiar = with such things may not find the print format readable: I know I don't.
I agree with v4hn that the EBNF grammar is worth more= consideration than the YACC grammar, but mostly because at only 20 pages i= t is less burdensome, and not because I think print is ultimately a dignifi= ed or useful format for it.

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