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Aside from that, if there's some kind of inconsistency, like blokle being used in one place but blolei being used elsewhere, neither as an example of how multiple lujvo can represent the same word, then that's simply an erratum to be corrected. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o On 2 October 2014 00:02, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:15:06 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > As y'all may have noticed, the glossary is full of "NO DEFINITION > > FOUND!"s. > > > > These are pulled from jbovlaste at compile time. So, we can either > > fix that by y'all going out and fixing them all, or by me changing > > the code to ignore missing definitions. > > Here is the complete list (by eye and hand): > > bisycla (phonotactic example) > blakanla > blaselkanla > blokle -> blolei > blolei > brudi (not a word; all other br*di are) > bridyvalsi -> brivla > bridyvla -> brivla > brivalsi -> brivla > cagyce'u > cidjrspageti > calkyguzme -> cakyzme > cinctu > cipnrstrigi > cladakfu > cmacrnintegrale > cmacrntegrale (variant of above, see also bi'irsumji) > dadgreku > djinrnintegrale > donta'a > fetsygau -> fetygau > ge'urzdani -> gerzda > ge'uzda -> gerzda > gekmau > gerkyzda -> gerzda > gerkyzdani -> gerzda > gerzdani -> gerzda > gisnu (not a word) > gizmu (not a word) > gicmu (not a word) > gripau > grutrceraso (=rutrceraso) > integrale > kambla > karcykla > krecau > kismu (not a word) > klamau > lantro > labmau > lamgri > lange'u > logjybangir (variant of lojbangirz) > logjybangirzu -> lojbaugri > logjybangri -> lojbaugri > logjybangygir (variant of lojbangirz) > logjybangygirz (variant of lojbangirz) > logjybangygirzu -> lojbaugri > likygau > logjybangygri -> lojbaugri > likyri'a (typo for likri'a) > logjybaugir (variant of lojbangirz) > logjybaugirz (variant of lojbangirz) > logjybaugirzu -> lojbaugri > logjybaugri -> lojbaugri > livgyterbilma -> livgyterbi'a > lojbangygri -> lojbaugri > lojbaugir (variant of lojbangirz) > lojbaugirz (variant of lojbangirz) > lo'ikle -> blolei > lojbaugirzu -> lojbaugri > lo'irlei -> blolei > lojbaugri > lotkle -> blolei > lotlei -> blolei > lojbangir (variant of lojbangirz) > lojbangirz > lojbangirzu -> lojbaugri > lojbangri -> lojbaugri > lojbangygir (variant of lojbangirz) > lojbangygirz (variant of lojbangirz) > lojbangygirzu -> lojbaugri > mampa'u > manskapi > mi'erxanpli > minkemxanpli (typo for midykemxanpli) > mudysiclu > naknykemcinctu -> nakykemcinctu > naknykemcinctuca -> nakykemcinctu > naknykemcinsyctu -> nakykemcinctu > naknykemcinsyctuca -> nakykemcinctu > nakykemcinctu > nakykemcinctuca -> nakykemcinctu > nakykemcinsyctu -> nakykemcinctu > nakykemcinsyctuca -> nakykemcinctu > nalbrablo > nalmle > nelcymau -> neizma > nilkla > normle > nunpinxe > nunsoidji > nunte'a > nunterji'a > nunctu > nunji'a > nunkalte > pacraistu > nunkilbra > pacru'i > nunklama -> nunkla > pevrisnyjelca > patyta'a > posydji > rairgugde -> rairgu'e > risnyjelca > ro'inre'o -> rokre'o > rokre'o > ricrxaceru > segi'u > segu > segu'u > saktrxacero > seju > selti'i > selbri > selti'ifla > seldzukla > selgekmau > selzda > seljdasku > selkanla > selkemdzukla > selklamau > seu (not a word) > selnelcymau -> selneimau > selselgekmau > selseljdasku > sikcurnu > soidji > spatrkoka > spraile > tarmrnintegrale > terklamau > terlantroge'u > ti'ifla > ti'otci > terci'e > tergusni -> tergu'i > terkakpa > turdu'i > tricrxaceru -> ricrxaceru > velmikce > xelklama -> xelka'a > xancypliminde -> xanplimi'e > xanmi'e > xanplimi'e > xismu (not a word) > xaskemcakcurnu > xasycakcurnu > zernerkla > zilpavypinxe > zilrelselpinxe > zuljamfu -> zuljma > zunlyjamfu -> zuljma > zunlyjma -> zuljma > > mu'omi'e .pier. > -- > gau do li'i co'e kei do > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Perhaps an extra tag can be added for words that serve onl= y as examples, and should not appear in the dictionary or glossary?
Asid= e from that, if there's some kind of inconsistency, like blokle being u= sed in one place but blolei being used elsewhere, neither as an example of = how multiple lujvo can represent the same word, then that's simply an e= rratum to be corrected.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 2 October 2014 00:0= 2, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:15:06 R= obin Lee Powell wrote:
> As y'all may have noticed, the glossary is= full of "NO DEFINITION
> FOUND!"s.
>
> These are pulled from jbovlaste at compile time.=C2=A0 So, we can eith= er
> fix that by y'all going out and fixing them all, or by me changing=
> the code to ignore missing definitions.

Here is the complete list (by eye and hand):

bisycla (phonotactic example)
blakanla
blaselkanla
blokle -> blolei
blolei
brudi (not a word; all other br*di are)
bridyvalsi -> brivla
bridyvla -> brivla
brivalsi -> brivla
cagyce'u
cidjrspageti
calkyguzme -> cakyzme
cinctu
cipnrstrigi
cladakfu
cmacrnintegrale
cmacrntegrale (variant of above, see also bi'irsumji)
dadgreku
djinrnintegrale
donta'a
fetsygau -> fetygau
ge'urzdani -> gerzda
ge'uzda -> gerzda
gekmau
gerkyzda -> gerzda
gerkyzdani -> gerzda
gerzdani -> gerzda
gisnu (not a word)
gizmu (not a word)
gicmu (not a word)
gripau
grutrceraso (=3Drutrceraso)
integrale
kambla
karcykla
krecau
kismu (not a word)
klamau
lantro
labmau
lamgri
lange'u
logjybangir (variant of lojbangirz)
logjybangirzu -> lojbaugri
logjybangri -> lojbaugri
logjybangygir (variant of lojbangirz)
logjybangygirz (variant of lojbangirz)
logjybangygirzu -> lojbaugri
likygau
logjybangygri -> lojbaugri
likyri'a (typo for likri'a)
logjybaugir (variant of lojbangirz)
logjybaugirz (variant of lojbangirz)
logjybaugirzu -> lojbaugri
logjybaugri -> lojbaugri
livgyterbilma -> livgyterbi'a
lojbangygri -> lojbaugri
lojbaugir (variant of lojbangirz)
lojbaugirz (variant of lojbangirz)
lo'ikle -> blolei
lojbaugirzu -> lojbaugri
lo'irlei -> blolei
lojbaugri
lotkle -> blolei
lotlei -> blolei
lojbangir (variant of lojbangirz)
lojbangirz
lojbangirzu -> lojbaugri
lojbangri -> lojbaugri
lojbangygir (variant of lojbangirz)
lojbangygirz (variant of lojbangirz)
lojbangygirzu -> lojbaugri
mampa'u
manskapi
mi'erxanpli
minkemxanpli (typo for midykemxanpli)
mudysiclu
naknykemcinctu -> nakykemcinctu
naknykemcinctuca -> nakykemcinctu
naknykemcinsyctu -> nakykemcinctu
naknykemcinsyctuca -> nakykemcinctu
nakykemcinctu
nakykemcinctuca -> nakykemcinctu
nakykemcinsyctu -> nakykemcinctu
nakykemcinsyctuca -> nakykemcinctu
nalbrablo
nalmle
nelcymau -> neizma
nilkla
normle
nunpinxe
nunsoidji
nunte'a
nunterji'a
nunctu
nunji'a
nunkalte
pacraistu
nunkilbra
pacru'i
nunklama -> nunkla
pevrisnyjelca
patyta'a
posydji
rairgugde -> rairgu'e
risnyjelca
ro'inre'o -> rokre'o
rokre'o
ricrxaceru
segi'u
segu
segu'u
saktrxacero
seju
selti'i
selbri
selti'ifla
seldzukla
selgekmau
selzda
seljdasku
selkanla
selkemdzukla
selklamau
seu (not a word)
selnelcymau -> selneimau
selselgekmau
selseljdasku
sikcurnu
soidji
spatrkoka
spraile
tarmrnintegrale
terklamau
terlantroge'u
ti'ifla
ti'otci
terci'e
tergusni -> tergu'i
terkakpa
turdu'i
tricrxaceru -> ricrxaceru
velmikce
xelklama -> xelka'a
xancypliminde -> xanplimi'e
xanmi'e
xanplimi'e
xismu (not a word)
xaskemcakcurnu
xasycakcurnu
zernerkla
zilpavypinxe
zilrelselpinxe
zuljamfu -> zuljma
zunlyjamfu -> zuljma
zunlyjma -> zuljma

mu'omi'e .pier.
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