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Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL: I'd like to drop the formal grammars.
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  I agree with you, Robin.  I don't believe the formal grammar belongs in
the printed book, or at least not _this_ printed book.  It might be fine as
a separately printed  appendix.  I, for one, have gotten along fine without
it, never really gave it more than a glance, and my eyes glaze over
whenever other people start referencing it on the email list.  It's not
that I don't understand formal grammars.  I do have a CompSci degree.  But
I believe that chapter is only of interest to those people who are  going
to be programming in it, with it, or about it (e.g. camxes, jbofi'e, and
cakyrespa)

   It's no different in my business.  For example, there are user manuals
for printers, but I usually need something deeper, the prorammer's manual,
because I need to learn how the down-and-dirty nitty-gritty works in order
to get them to work with our applications.  99.99% of the public doesn't
need that.  Same with lojban.  I didn't (And don't) need that chapter to
speak lojban, nor does anyone else (Except, apparently, lojbab?).  Dump it,
and make it available on request.
                --gejyspa, jumping out of my 3-month email backlog just for
you, camgusmis <3


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

>
> In the age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal
> Grammars chapter simply doesn't belong in a printed book.
>
> Does anyone disagree?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 I agree with you, Robin.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t believe =
the formal grammar belongs in the printed book, or at least not _this_ prin=
ted book.=C2=A0 It might be fine as a separately printed =C2=A0appendix.=C2=
=A0 I, for one, have gotten along fine without it, never really gave it mor=
e than a glance, and my eyes glaze over whenever other people start referen=
cing it on the email list.=C2=A0 It&#39;s not that I don&#39;t understand f=
ormal grammars.=C2=A0 I do have a CompSci degree.=C2=A0 But I believe that =
chapter is only of interest to those people who are =C2=A0going to be progr=
amming in it, with it, or about it (e.g. camxes, jbofi&#39;e, and cakyrespa=
)<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0It&#39;s no different in my business.=C2=
=A0 For example, there are user manuals for printers, but I usually need so=
mething deeper, the prorammer&#39;s manual, because I need to learn how the=
 down-and-dirty nitty-gritty works in order to get them to work with our ap=
plications. =C2=A099.99% of the public doesn&#39;t need that.=C2=A0 Same wi=
th lojban.=C2=A0 I didn&#39;t (And don&#39;t) need that chapter to speak lo=
jban, nor does anyone else (Except, apparently, lojbab?).=C2=A0 Dump it, an=
d make it available on request.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa, jumping out of my 3-month email backlog=
 just for you, camgusmis &lt;3</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Rob=
in Lee Powell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingd=
om.org" target=3D"_blank">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
In the age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal<br>
Grammars chapter simply doesn&#39;t belong in a printed book.<br>
<br>
Does anyone disagree?<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"http://intelligence.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://intelligence.=
org/</a> :=C2=A0 Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.<br>
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go&#39;i li&#39;u=
 .e<br>
lu go&#39;i li&#39;u .i ji&#39;a go&#39;i lu na&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e =
lu go&#39;i na&#39;i li&#39;u .e<br>
lu no&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu to&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu lo mam=
ta be do cu sofybakni li&#39;u<br>
<br>
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