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Including it means I have to do the work to maake it look decent on
the page, which is the work I don't want to do.

On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 10:00:11PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I'm sure there's a reason why we can't just release both a with and without
> version, see which one gets purchased more, and use that info. to determine
> future version content?
> 
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >  I don't have much of an opinion since I prefer the PEG and obviously
> > that's not going in this edition, but surely Lojban is still confirmed as
> > machine-parseable by the inclusion of one and not both grammars. And I
> > don't mean to deny the usefulness of the YACC grammar to Bob, but I'll
> > point out that the fact that it was pedagogically useful to _write_ doesn't
> > necessarily imply that it's pedagogically useful for others to _read_ %^)
> >
> > mu'o mi'e la durka
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Spacenut wrote:
> >
> > As a layperson, not knowing anything about the formal grammar, I say we
> > absolutely should keep it in there. Though it may be of no use to me, The
> > Complete Lojban Language is not complete without the full grammar. Also, as
> > a less technical and more psychological argument, it reinforces the idea
> > that Lojban is 100% syntactically unambiguous to people who don't know
> > anything about the parser. The fact that it can be interpreted (don't know
> > if that's the right word there) by a computer is one of the reasons why I'm
> > learning Lojban, and having tangible evidence of that is pretty powerful.
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 3:59:12 AM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote:
> >
> >
> > In the age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal
> > Grammars chapter simply doesn't belong in a printed book.
> >
> > Does anyone disagree?
> >
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