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Oh, I hadn't thought of dropping only the YACC; that's a very
interesting idea.

On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 11:38:38PM -0400, Alex Burka wrote:
> I don't have much of an opinion since I prefer the PEG and
> obviously that's not going in this edition, but surely Lojban is
> still confirmed as machine-parseable by the inclusion of one and
> not both grammars. And I don't mean to deny the usefulness of the
> YACC grammar to Bob, but I'll point out that the fact that it was
> pedagogically useful to _write_ doesn't necessarily imply that
> it's pedagogically useful for others to _read_ %^)
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> On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Spacenut wrote:
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> > As a layperson, not knowing anything about the formal grammar, I say we=
 absolutely should keep it in there. Though it may be of no use to me, The =
Complete Lojban Language is not complete without the full grammar. Also, as=
 a less technical and more psychological argument, it reinforces the idea t=
hat Lojban is 100% syntactically unambiguous to people who don't know anyth=
ing about the parser. The fact that it can be interpreted (don't know if th=
at's the right word there) by a computer is one of the reasons why I'm lear=
ning Lojban, and having tangible evidence of that is pretty powerful.
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> > On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 3:59:12 AM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote:
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> > > In the age of ubiquitous internet, I feel that the entire Formal=20
> > > Grammars chapter simply doesn't belong in a printed book.=20
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