Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:45267) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XcC0X-0004ug-6V for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:51 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f189.google.com with SMTP id ex7sf124926wid.6 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hhrOw17SfBmkPo2cOcBR+krySSZc7EOgXERMtADhyOQ=; b=N7CnYoIsHTmNhKkLEbsaY/odkVvVUebxdVKdrdEGEFSVo9YrCe2VhShAHadV1gv9nq R/CCIc7y7Rbtl29YA4806d2wGY2YaYhNsf2NqK+iKw89bqSi1TCnTM8Rg/11Go83GmXF Ly2EiWSxN5sQpSd9wX99ZzuAW9wBXJsbN04zc9AJ/YtaHYBKXAhDoNWw1SGFJ5s8lDLN Wnssovt0ilBJ2GJUaTyo95gDsj6v1kEtcX5wf1VkVFAg8mK6DUGMa71XAxM1KvC5Qz1y jLm5KFcALoc8NEJJxh4YqKguDTwlexf+lbq0WEqcZUE3DofDs/BEqeBpzdIl/D5F5K0T quBA== X-Received: by 10.180.9.114 with SMTP id y18mr22978wia.21.1412854538199; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.104.101 with SMTP id gd5ls247910wib.16.gmail; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr677123wid.1.1412854537811; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rb5si453170lbb.0.2014.10.09.04.35.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Oct 2014 04:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([93.220.65.223]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPUZ7-1XY38y110L-004kOx for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:35:37 +0200 Message-ID: <5436730B.9040101@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:35:39 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2 References: <20141004141407.GG32481@gonzales> <20141005153531.GA1974@gonzales> <20141005214350.GC1974@gonzales> <20141005234958.GD1974@gonzales> <20141006025048.GE1974@gonzales> <20141008015245.GB17866@gonzales> <5435BEB8.5050303@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KobuXbjJlhCZX68uXroqJH3LnPUG4aWmacZQ062UozgQ6i9xbtQ VDDGEvjRY9/UtgJKKQR7TZM4A4JCmTWhhnreRKVyQAImMSbSwVeZoiGqtdULB61IgjFlVrU LGPIvWYfrqvVxavkfgOb0I0MGY3L7JfaVtnBvLA1i8clGsGNhK0QyL94rtDwaA9v6NMds5E SSM/GP8Qm923wO21cnv0g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e > But that's cheating a bit, since we are singularizing rather than using > plural quantification. Maybe plural quantifier "su'oi ci" could be > defined as: > > su'oi ci broda cu brode := su'oi da poi broda zo'u ci de poi broda > gi'e me da zo'u da brode > > Then we can say "su'oi ci tadni cu sruri lo dinju". If {su'oi} is to parallel {su'o}, then I would expect {su'oi ci} to mean "at least three" as a plural quantifier. But maybe {su'oi je ci} "at least one and three" makes sense for the exact plural 3. It's a bit hackish though, because it connects a plural with a singular quantifier. Another option is to have a new PA that marks a PA string as plural. And yet another option is to take plurals as the default. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.