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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:41:23 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM, 'John E. Clifford' via lojban <
lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So, with {ci da} in 1, we get something like "There are three people I
> want to run for governor" (I tell you wo I mean and why I want them to run,
> say).  Case 3 is "I want three people t rn for governor" (I don't much care
> who they are but a three-way race is more interesting, say). What case 2
> like?  The {da} ranges over the home universe, not that of the Wunschwelt,
> but is somehow also influenced by the wishing.
>

Case 2 would be a weird one. The proposition p that I would be claiming to
want to be true would have to satisfy this:

   ci da zo'u py du'u da co'e
   For exactly three values of x, p is the proposition that x [runs for
governor].

Since the proposition p has to be the same for each one of three different
values of x, it doesn't really make much sense with co'e as "runs for
governor". We would be forced to interpret "co'e" in such a way that "x
co'e" gives the same proposition for different values of x.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM, &#39;John E. Clifford&#39; via lojban =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"=
_blank">lojban@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>So, with {ci da} in 1, we get s=
omething like &quot;There are three people I want to run for governor&quot;=
 (I tell you wo I mean and why I want them to run, say).=C2=A0 Case 3 is &q=
uot;I want three people t rn for governor&quot; (I don&#39;t much care who =
they are but a three-way race is more interesting, say). What case 2 like?=
=C2=A0 The {da} ranges over the home universe, not that of the Wunschwelt, =
but is somehow also influenced by the wishing.</div></div></blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>Case 2 would be a weird one. The proposition p that I would=
 be claiming to want to be true would have to satisfy this:</div><div><br><=
/div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ci da zo&#39;u py du&#39;u da co&#39;e</div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0For exactly three values of x, p is the proposition that x [runs =
for governor].</div><div><br></div><div>Since the proposition p has to be t=
he same for each one of three different values of x, it doesn&#39;t really =
make much sense with co&#39;e as &quot;runs for governor&quot;. We would be=
 forced to interpret &quot;co&#39;e&quot; in such a way that &quot;x co&#39=
;e&quot; gives the same proposition for different values of x.=C2=A0</div><=
div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div=
></div>

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