Received: from mail-wi0-f184.google.com ([209.85.212.184]:56116) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XdL07-0002Pm-Lc for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:24:09 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f184.google.com with SMTP id h11sf116186wiw.1 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RYx86ZDHwEAuZaLrmjqXDB0KY7eVIFQyWfcZH+mAQuI=; b=leLgLmfUujCWcJo4W9O7X+Fyri8VIuzcjXMVRAbAEJsriDagR3UziHT/cENs1a6lwC 50eKEITWSL6QyVK82YZcgNlsqZM6knFzvV0BhaIet+gPMCBkJEWaO9FO2srSG61Y6S/v cZiIqdvEyFcWW9s1RNC2ry3q/D2fhq4WfsXZVokIXlRBajrbUun3scoUAMU4ov6H0klM 8hqQRvQHqtw1s6CkG624ZM0JAD7gvzUGvtJ7sNlDqcUZyjtEqD5F/sRySs23+lM7gmVi nd+Sqra2FqfE7AVqStgonn3fzRTp9EPTW4RsXFApHyGk37VcBUgv8ePBtJK0QeMCQVT2 xV6Q== X-Received: by 10.152.19.97 with SMTP id d1mr264298lae.1.1413127436776; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.30.70 with SMTP id q6ls403036lah.62.gmail; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.163.39 with SMTP id yf7mr3107555lbb.7.1413127435426; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com (mail-la0-x233.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id us10si414830lbc.1.2014.10.12.08.23.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::233; Received: by mail-la0-x233.google.com with SMTP id ge10so5533471lab.10 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.54.130 with SMTP id j2mr18043794lbp.41.1413127435302; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.61.107 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:23:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "to" and "from" places in vorme, dargu, cripu, klaji From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c332b6cdbcd205053b5e74 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c332b6cdbcd205053b5e74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > klaji doesnt have "from" place. > Nor a "to" place, in the sense that I think you mean. klaji3 is for buildings and such located on the side of klaji1, such that they can be accessed from it. The idea being that the end points of streets are not particularly interesting or relevant. lo ckule .e lo muzga .e lo malsi cu te klaji fi la bi moi The school and the museum and the church are on 8th Street. > how would you express them when they are absent? > "fe'e co'a", "fe'e co'u"? > How to describe two-way doors, bridges and streets? > "relselfa'a" (vs. "pavyselfa'a")? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c332b6cdbcd205053b5e74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <<= a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:
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klaji doesnt have "from" place.

Nor a "to" place, in the sense that I= think you mean. klaji3 is for buildings and such located on the side of kl= aji1, such that they can be accessed from it. The idea being that the end p= oints of streets are not particularly interesting or relevant.
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=C2=A0The school and the museum and the church are on 8th Stree= t.
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<= div>how would you express them when they are absent?

"fe'e co'a", "fe'e co'= ;u"?=C2=A0
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How to describe two-way doors, bridges and streets?

"relselfa'a" (vs. "pavyselfa'= a")?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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