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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:24:45 +0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] "to" and "from" places in vorme, dargu, cripu, klaji
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2014-10-13 18:43 GMT+04:00 iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de>:

> .i la gleki ku cusku di'e
> >When using cripu3/4 we can't even be sure where is destination due to
> "typically".
> >
> >And most bridges are two way bridges. Using cripu place structure looks
> like a nightmare here
> >[=E2=80=A6]
>
> I understand
>
> >x1 is a bridge/span over/across x2 between x3 and x4 [unordered,
> typically destination first].
>
> thusly: {cripu}ing means spanning over x2, objectively connecting x2 and
> x4, and that=E2=80=99s it. While which one is considered a starting point=
 and which
> one a destination=E2=80=94if you imagine crossing the x2 via what {cripu}=
es it=E2=80=94is
> obviously subjective, depending on ma kau klama ma kau ma kau lo bi'u nai
> cripu. I take the stuff in square brackets as a mere comment on usage as
> observed, expected, or recommended at the time of the compiling of the
> gi'uste, not as part of the definition.
>
> I guess it would be highly impractical if {cripu} were to have places
> corresponding to {klama}2 and {klama}3, since it doesn=E2=80=99t have a {=
klama}1
> equivalent to clarify the perspective.
>

What does cripu3 mean then?


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> mu'o mi'e la iesko
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-10-13 18:43 GMT+04:00 iesk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:pa.fae@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">pa.fae@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">.i la gleki ku cusku di&#39;e<span =
class=3D""><br>&gt;When using cripu3/4 we can&#39;t even be sure where is d=
estination due to &quot;typically&quot;.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;And most bridges ar=
e two way bridges. Using cripu place structure looks like a nightmare here<=
br></span>&gt;[=E2=80=A6]<br><br>I understand<span class=3D""><br><br>&gt;x=
1 is a bridge/span over/across x2 between x3 and x4 [unordered, typically d=
estination first].<br><br></span>thusly: {cripu}ing means spanning over x2,=
 objectively connecting x2 and x4, and that=E2=80=99s it. While which one i=
s considered a starting point and which one a destination=E2=80=94if you im=
agine crossing the x2 via what {cripu}es it=E2=80=94is obviously subjective=
, depending on ma kau klama ma kau ma kau lo bi&#39;u nai cripu. I take the=
 stuff in square brackets as a mere comment on usage as observed, expected,=
 or recommended at the time of the compiling of the gi&#39;uste, not as par=
t of the definition.<br><br>I guess it would be highly impractical if {crip=
u} were to have places corresponding to {klama}2 and {klama}3, since it doe=
sn=E2=80=99t have a {klama}1 equivalent to clarify the perspective.<br></di=
v></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What does cripu3 mean then?</div><div>=
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>mu&#39;o mi=
&#39;e la iesko</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

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