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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::242]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ca20si242196wib.3.2014.10.19.09.21.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::242 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::242; Received: by mail-wg0-f66.google.com with SMTP id m15so1228764wgh.5 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.161.166 with SMTP id xt6mr26726726wjb.1.1413735703441; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.175.167 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5a3b52be-c0c0-4340-8479-574bf6e6a00b@googlegroups.com> References: <515C66D0.60501@gmx.de> <5160157C.6020401@gmx.de> <5a3b52be-c0c0-4340-8479-574bf6e6a00b@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:21:43 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Isomorphism in lo cmalu noltru From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d103468fabf0505c8fe1b X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013d103468fabf0505c8fe1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-10-19 19:18 GMT+04:00 guskant : > > > Le mercredi 1 mai 2013 23:58:58 UTC+9, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit : >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM, guskant wrote: >> >>> I'd really like to get some opinions on this. >>>> >>>> Would you prefer >>>> >>>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce fric= a >>>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci >>>> >>>> to be _read_ as: >>>> >>>> >>>> a) >>>> .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica >>>> .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci >>>> >>>> (that is, no indication of speaker change whatsoever) >>>> >>>> or b) >>>> .i =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BDlu lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce fr= ica li'u=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD >>>> .i =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BDlu ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci li'u=C3=AF= =C2=BF=C2=BD >>>> >>>> or c) >>>> some other way (in which case I'd like to know how). >>>> >>>> >>> For your information, I did c) for my show at ponjo jbonunsla: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrV1TlMAmlWk >>> >> na kakne lo ka zgana > >>> >>> I made one tap when a different speaker begins speaking, and two >>> taps when the speaker finishes speaking. >>> The tap sound was made with my tap shoes. >>> >> >> doi guskant >> lo ve snada'i cu se smuni la'e di'u do uasai vau xu i pe'i lo go'i mi >> cladu savru je fanza .i sotpa'a lo nu do puza ciksi da'i .i mi pu na jim= pe >> .i la'aru'e lo ni se fanza cu se jdika mi va'o lo nu da'i go'e >> >> -gejyspa >> >> > > je'e la gejyspa ko fraxu mi lo nu fanza do kei .e lo nu spuda lerci > i lo skina no'u la remo'o bripre gau mi co'u gubni > ija'ebo noda ba'a ka'e te skina fi ra vau .o'udai > i lo se ciska po'o cu ca gubni to zoi url > > http://www.lojban.org/corpus/show/lei%20cmalu%20narge%20.e%20le%20cmana%2= 0mlatu > url toi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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2014-10-19 19:18 GMT+04:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com><= /span>:


Le mercr= edi 1 mai 2013 23:58:58 UTC+9, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM, guskant <gusni...@= gmail.com> wrote:
I'd really like to get some opinions on this.

Would you prefer

=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i m= utce frica
=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci

to be _read_ as:


a)
.i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica
.i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci

(that is, no indication of speaker change whatsoever)

or b)
.i =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BDlu lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i= mutce frica li'u=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD
.i =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BDlu ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci li'u=C3= =AF=C2=BF=C2=BD

or c)
some other way (in which case I'd like to know how).


For your information, I did c) f= or my show at ponjo jbonunsla:

na kakne lo ka zgana
=C2=A0


I made one tap=C2=A0when a different speaker begi= ns speaking,=C2=A0and two taps=C2=A0when the speaker finishes speaking.
The tap sound was made with my tap shoes.

doi guskant=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0lo ve snada'i cu se smuni la&#= 39;e di'u do uasai vau xu i pe'i lo go'i mi cladu savru je fanz= a .i sotpa'a lo nu do puza ciksi da'i .i mi pu na jimpe .i la'a= ru'e lo ni se fanza cu se jdika mi =C2=A0va'o lo nu da'i go'= ;e=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= -gejyspa



je'e la g= ejyspa ko fraxu mi lo nu fanza do kei .e lo nu spuda lerci
i lo skina no= 'u la remo'o bripre gau mi co'u gubni
ija'ebo noda ba&#= 39;a ka'e te skina fi ra vau .o'udai
i lo se ciska po'o cu c= a gubni to zoi url
http://www.lojban.= org/corpus/show/lei%20cmalu%20narge%20.e%20le%20cmana%20mlatu
url to= i

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