Received: from mail-ob0-f191.google.com ([209.85.214.191]:63930) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhiw0-0007gr-Cw for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:46:00 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f191.google.com with SMTP id wm4sf230911obc.18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=Jt3Kya5e1e2HknY8J0Jr2IxqVYfBf8wae3uoUDgp7ME=; b=n//1oLB6ON23UNFU1dHt9Fqry1KRvaEcoC/9tlx+snY0lbLTu2E35YLW/GXyb4ccK5 53XdLOl0xRCFvnAxX1IZ6JzZqcYyiSU1TTDtOdzKt11YTZQJzdqcj33MsI6ypgB8LBAC i25TjcV+L8JsGSeYAY8PTZpA4+bGyuDqbupDiet7gxOJtod1EaMeIUZbeUgjCd8RKi31 ZTmcxTxwhJ78u+XE2dNvrr9umSjNvXDmUGzKL8RU6VRBNJm96pvXEGUeRLLf5RU8kVEs ELwyPzsrDbMJ+A8/grcfuZQwyhlN+af2C7ipiEq12WvUDzWAGITuzxWbg9Dy9Tcf1SW/ aZNA== X-Received: by 10.182.29.136 with SMTP id k8mr16682obh.25.1414172749902; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.20.139 with SMTP id n11ls642992obe.85.gmail; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.128.71 with SMTP id nm7mr8734587obb.5.1414172749534; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.228]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id pk7si601890pbc.2.2014.10.24.10.45.49 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.228; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:42045] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 61/78-07641-C409A445; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:45:49 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E9379F for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:45:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [oz] sraku vs. te prina Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:45:45 -0400 Message-ID: <6688108.ncnyLMKtLe@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-37-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Monday, October 13, 2014 14:49:02 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > .i ku'i se ri'a lo nu la c=ECnfo cu se sp=E0ji kei lo jg=E0lu cu te pr=EC= na lo > t=ECnci no da > But, to the Lion's surprise, he could make no impression on the tin >=20 > Wouldn't {sraku gasnu} be better here? "unlike kakpa, sraku does not imply material is removed". I think the=20 impression one would expect to make in tin sheet is deformation, rather tha= n=20 removal of material. I'd keep "prina". Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.