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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:07:12 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] {jai jai} and {fai}
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On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Well, I meant for moving {fai} inwards. {ke} doesnt work as {faixipa}.
>
>  ({jai <ke [jai ri'a broda] KE'E>} {<fai do> VAU})
>
> Neither {be} is able to move it inwards:
> ({<jai [jai ri'a broda]> <be [fai do] BE'O>} VAU)
>

You need both ke and be:

jai ke jai ri'a broda be fai do ke'e fai mi

As for {faixipa} why do we start counting with {pa} from the inside, not
> from the outside}?
>

I would start with "no" from the outside.


> And the current parsers currently don't provide inner links of what links
> what, they dont provide enough formalization. Compare this with FA where
> jbofi'e clearly understands which sumti fills which place of which bridi
> within the tree.
>

That's what Martin is working on. It's hard.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.=
name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5"><div><br></div></div></div><div>Well, I meant for moving {fa=
i} inwards. {ke} doesnt work as {faixipa}.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0(=
{jai &lt;ke [jai ri&#39;a broda] KE&#39;E&gt;} {&lt;fai do&gt; VAU})<br><br=
>Neither {be} is able to move it inwards:</div><div>({&lt;jai [jai ri&#39;a=
 broda]&gt; &lt;be [fai do] BE&#39;O&gt;} VAU)<br></div></div></div></div><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div>You need both ke and be:</div><div><br></di=
v><div>jai ke jai ri&#39;a broda be fai do ke&#39;e fai mi=C2=A0</div><div>=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>As for {faixipa} why do we start =
counting with {pa} from the inside, not from the outside}?</div></div></div=
></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would start with &quot;no&quot; f=
rom the outside.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>And =
the current parsers currently don&#39;t provide inner links of what links w=
hat, they dont provide enough formalization. Compare this with FA where jbo=
fi&#39;e clearly understands which sumti fills which place of which bridi w=
ithin the tree.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Tha=
t&#39;s what Martin is working on. It&#39;s hard.</div><div><br></div><div>=
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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