Received: from mail-vc0-f192.google.com ([209.85.220.192]:53653) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XiSd8-0004Nv-HT for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:38 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f192.google.com with SMTP id hq11sf747500vcb.19 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=ME739VAAJPGBsEW7tY8wVDwM+rMnyTkYTVUGPCKonG0=; b=cKGSMCXJIEZt4TDblI5BOMZQsvh9a0vSfBkS5NLPL/GdO8h5uJnQjEjMRcdxrcknxD xRJAGZiD50lbqnaLn3LzZMv/K6iICZtk/+CTo7XiB0xnvI4FDoBYjvQ0oZT+89HY4f9m LSiD3ZE+1YPvdb6LYlYsJsI6xL0G6x1/LC+F19ta/+BbMyF5oi738kArcKSLhaTb9rQu xqwlmd5cnqCJA+vY9NBViwGAn4N37WB6Ge1VEjnc3quKn3rpHN1KaA41XqiKZq1/gN8d vZ7NL9PiAqZXmG853pBqDZ5R810AMy4QjhR6IlmdqTNGGa1fwdCOoc27a0gUlu1zFcAE hXTw== X-Received: by 10.50.118.9 with SMTP id ki9mr170579igb.16.1414348403854; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.79.233 with SMTP id m9ls655293igx.17.gmail; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.143.227 with SMTP id sh3mr17324166pbb.2.1414348402972; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qm4si886643pdb.2.2014.10.26.11.33.22 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XiScz-0004Nm-0g for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:33:20 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It Message-ID: <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 06:51:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: > Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that > exist do not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world. I would say it's a mixture of lack of words and lack of phrasal idiom. Frankly, though, I consider the self-similarity of existing words, and the vast array of accidental tongue twisters, to be more serious problems than the lack of vocab. The language is *physically* hard to speak, to an extent that is distinctly unpleasent. -- http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.