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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h1si459082wib.0.2014.10.26.11.37.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d; Received: by mail-wi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id ex7so4669965wid.12 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.102.135 with SMTP id fo7mr16735144wib.79.1414348639368; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:37:19 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444728f3cfcce050657b4b7 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d0444728f3cfcce050657b4b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-10-26 21:33 GMT+03:00 Robin Lee Powell : > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 06:51:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: > > Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that > > exist do not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world. > > I would say it's a mixture of lack of words and lack of phrasal > idiom. > > Frankly, though, I consider the self-similarity of existing words, > and the vast array of accidental tongue twisters, to be more serious > problems than the lack of vocab. 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2014-10-26 21:33 GMT+03:00 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digita= lkingdom.org>:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 06:51:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote:
> Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that
> exist do not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world.

I would say it's a mixture of lack of words and lack of phrasal<= br> idiom.

Frankly, though, I consider the self-similarity of existing words,
and the vast array of accidental tongue twisters, to be more serious
problems than the lack of vocab.=C2=A0 The language is *physically* hard to speak, to an extent that is distinctly unpleasent.
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And what is your personal solution ?


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lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
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