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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: tosmabru test: intelligible explanation sought
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:02 PM, <sunrise2000@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> All three of these "lujvo" pass the tosmabru test as laid out on p. 71.
> {cc} is not a valid initial consonant pair, so the test passes and
> doesn't demand a tosmabru y-hyphen.


You're quite right, this is a known erratum in the printed version:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL,+aka+Reference+Grammar,+Errata

You can find the correct version of rule 5a) in
http://lojban.github.io/cll/4/11/

At this point, I'm so confused I'm not even sure what the proper form
> for a lujvo is.  Does anyone have a formal description (i.e., grammar
> rules) for what constitutes a valid lujvo?


The PEG morphology gives formal grammar rules for all word forms:

 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:02 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:sunrise2000@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">sunrise2000@comcast.net</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-le=
ft-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
All three of these &quot;lujvo&quot; pass the tosmabru test as laid out on =
p. 71.<br>
{cc} is not a valid initial consonant pair, so the test passes and<br>
doesn&#39;t demand a tosmabru y-hyphen.=C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv>You&#39;re quite right, this is a known erratum in the printed version: =
<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL,+aka+Reference+Grammar,+Errata">h=
ttp://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL,+aka+Reference+Grammar,+Errata</a></div><div>=
<br></div><div>You can find the correct version of rule 5a) in <a href=3D"h=
ttp://lojban.github.io/cll/4/11/">http://lojban.github.io/cll/4/11/</a></di=
v><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-l=
eft-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">At this point, I&#39;m so confused I&#39;=
m not even sure what the proper form<br>
for a lujvo is.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a formal description (i.e., grammar<=
br>
rules) for what constitutes a valid lujvo?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
The PEG morphology gives formal grammar rules for all word forms:=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Sect=
ion%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A=
+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm</a></div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xo=
rxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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