Received: from mail-yh0-f58.google.com ([209.85.213.58]:64005) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XjpDA-0007qw-Vn for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:25 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f58.google.com with SMTP id a41sf511197yho.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IVPMj0MLfIujo+jfpRCwWDbLkjDsog8CeF04xQoh3ts=; b=wBDyr0sO9qUndL9HKrlvcAyOqjrQtFprU+D5LB0+c4XSORnHW0pXHl9oYwg70uXo0G 1e8ennqpzSywCtYOSPTHrnaWI5XqOH2NQyTGpqn5hXrIF37TmIk2BI5mUzTI7iTAKmGV k4duye/Qt1oCSpQHTX43ueNFv0oELK6KHlvFZOwf0zDymEnzGvkGSb/K4aFCvUOQe0w1 87uSps07GnXE8ui9QDwURV1OVa8w91ufJo6LYwd6NqSNpt+N0YG3O6HBhvywvk/+ExiO twJbopmf66bGb9nGzkaIwog3ia64Skd/awLhIaq00OHMmw2h03KbH0qkrR0mo9VLJV04 6maA== X-Received: by 10.50.20.198 with SMTP id p6mr557871ige.10.1414673534580; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.4.136 with SMTP id 130ls938783ioe.56.gmail; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.142.229 with SMTP id rz5mr11882331pab.36.1414673534228; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.227]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id uv13si937572pab.2.2014.10.30.05.52.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.227; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:48054] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 73/75-03123-D7432545; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:52:13 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F344C7A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:52:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] ni'e vrici Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:51:59 -0400 Message-ID: <1694636.R3Nxg9Fd2s@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-37-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Thursday, October 30, 2014 13:41:29 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde > Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries. > > I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi > vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2. > > I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from each > other. > Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u nalsimsa} or can we use {ni'e vrici} > here? I'd say {lo ficysi'u gugde} or {loi ficysi'u gugde}. > If {ni'e} then how does it work under official grammar? > > {lo jbopre pu jmaji lo ni'e vrici boi gugde} doesn't parse officially. Then > what? {boi} terminates a string of letters or numbers. I don't see a terminator for {ni'e}. Try {vau}. If that doesn't work, we need a terminator for {ni'e}. Pierre -- The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave. The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.