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Subject: Re: [lojban] ni'e vrici
From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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2014-10-30 15:51 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:

> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 13:41:29 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> > lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde
> > Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries.
> >
> > I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi
> > vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2.
> >
> > I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from
> each
> > other.
> > Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u nalsimsa} or can we use {ni'e
> vrici}
> > here?
>
> I'd say {lo ficysi'u gugde} or {loi ficysi'u gugde}.
>

> > If {ni'e} then how does it work under official grammar?
> >
> > {lo jbopre pu jmaji lo ni'e vrici boi gugde} doesn't parse officially.
> Then
> > what?
>
> {boi} terminates a string of letters or numbers. I don't see a terminator
> for
> {ni'e}. Try {vau}. If that doesn't work, we need a terminator for {ni'e}.
>

It is to be expanded by the parser to
([lo jbopre KU] [CU {pu jmaji} {<(=C2=B9ni'e vrici TEhU=C2=B9) BOI> <lo gug=
de KU>}
VAU])

However, nothing works. The question is. If this parse is okay can I use it
even before approving by LLG? Can it be accepted as a known bug?
Or is it an intended limitation of the grammar?

Finally, is it smudra?
If standard PA count over the number of countries Lojbanists arrive from
can {ni'e vrici te'u} count over versatility of those countries?


> Pierre
> --
> The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
> The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing
> snave.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-10-30 15:51 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</=
span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-sty=
le:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Thursday, October 30, 2014 1=
3:41:29 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<br>
&gt; lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde<br>
&gt; Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi=
<br>
&gt; vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from =
each<br>
&gt; other.<br>
&gt; Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce&#39;u ce&#39;u nalsimsa} or can we use =
{ni&#39;e vrici}<br>
&gt; here?<br>
<br>
</span>I&#39;d say {lo ficysi&#39;u gugde} or {loi ficysi&#39;u gugde}.<br>=
</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-=
style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br>
&gt; If {ni&#39;e} then how does it work under official grammar?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; {lo jbopre pu jmaji lo ni&#39;e vrici boi gugde} doesn&#39;t parse off=
icially. Then<br>
&gt; what?<br>
<br>
</span>{boi} terminates a string of letters or numbers. I don&#39;t see a t=
erminator for<br>
{ni&#39;e}. Try {vau}. If that doesn&#39;t work, we need a terminator for {=
ni&#39;e}.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is to be expanded by the =
parser to=C2=A0</div><div><div>([lo jbopre KU] [CU {pu jmaji} {&lt;(=C2=B9n=
i&#39;e vrici TEhU=C2=B9) BOI&gt; &lt;lo gugde KU&gt;} VAU])</div></div><di=
v><br></div><div>However, nothing works. The question is. If this parse is =
okay can I use it even before approving by LLG? Can it be accepted as a kno=
wn bug?</div><div>Or is it an intended limitation of the grammar?</div><div=
><br></div><div>Finally, is it smudra?</div><div>If standard PA count over =
the number of countries Lojbanists arrive from can {ni&#39;e vrici te&#39;u=
} count over versatility of those countries?</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Pierre<br>
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The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.<br>
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave=
.<br>
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