Received: from mail-la0-f55.google.com ([209.85.215.55]:48840) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XjrJ7-0001kf-NP for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:47 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f55.google.com with SMTP id hs14sf282866lab.20 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hdR77GjO5kgiGE9GaxHHtr3dvBadjbR01rk7Xk+uUV4=; b=AjLh7k1MDKrcB1S2VgBw/H+frkVqqGtEkN6RcqwwqtmQllLhUkMSri6EDZlrGZANgl CTBQCvlERgwC4EsiYnvN0ypJsTDzJJdqFL5kgUqbIyrx3LGi0+gKshxGW3IUilB7fGkU CzVKhZZYGiYE4Yx93R01jP+nBrGnFLjNbb7EP3ciIUp2VfaEPHI8QCuLJ6HQRw8eATUK SZLx04+yn1d+mURYihoay6cDKBKboniqzXWTLnfTsUc0bxQgt5vX3FAWmX1Z0NH1SMSW wJVK/xbYWzheG4J6Dge/m0NQZk99IdI56m1/9W3TYU3vh3zXgyW1rPV9m2vLWc02zOQI EXNA== X-Received: by 10.152.2.195 with SMTP id 3mr8314law.41.1414681590073; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.170.227 with SMTP id ap3ls364945lac.31.gmail; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.26.82 with SMTP id j18mr211057lbg.16.1414681589369; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l9si83415wix.1.2014.10.30.08.06.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::233; Received: by mail-wi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id h11so7662868wiw.12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.90.237 with SMTP id bz13mr45027822wib.50.1414681589260; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([37.252.205.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t7sm6208473wjy.24.2014.10.30.08.06.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <545253EA.9050300@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:06:18 +0100 From: Ilmen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] ni'e vrici References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 30/10/2014 11:41, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde > Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries. > > I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi > vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2. > > I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from > each other. > Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u nalsimsa} or can we use {ni'e > vrici} here? > I think {lo vrici gugde} is fine: { lo (so'o) vrici gugde } ~> { lo poi'i ke'a gugde (gi'e so'o mei) gi'e vrici (lo ka du) } ~> { lo (so'o) gugde poi vrici (lo ka du) } I think that including {so'o} would be unnecessary, because I think {lo pa mei cu vrici} doesn't make much sense. mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.