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This parses under camxes and jbofi'e:

lo jbopre pu jmaji lo vei ni'e vrici te'u gugde

...But don't ask me what it means.

El jueves, 30 de octubre de 2014 09:17:05 UTC-4, la gleki escribi=C3=B3:
>
>
>
> 2014-10-30 15:51 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org <javascript:>=
>
> :
>
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 13:41:29 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
>> > lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde
>> > Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries.
>> >
>> > I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi
>> > vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2.
>> >
>> > I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from=
=20
>> each
>> > other.
>> > Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u nalsimsa} or can we use {ni'e=20
>> vrici}
>> > here?
>>
>> I'd say {lo ficysi'u gugde} or {loi ficysi'u gugde}.
>>
>
>> > If {ni'e} then how does it work under official grammar?
>> >
>> > {lo jbopre pu jmaji lo ni'e vrici boi gugde} doesn't parse officially.=
=20
>> Then
>> > what?
>>
>> {boi} terminates a string of letters or numbers. I don't see a terminato=
r=20
>> for
>> {ni'e}. Try {vau}. If that doesn't work, we need a terminator for {ni'e}=
.
>>
>
> It is to be expanded by the parser to=20
> ([lo jbopre KU] [CU {pu jmaji} {<(=C2=B9ni'e vrici TEhU=C2=B9) BOI> <lo g=
ugde KU>}=20
> VAU])
>
> However, nothing works. The question is. If this parse is okay can I use=
=20
> it even before approving by LLG? Can it be accepted as a known bug?
> Or is it an intended limitation of the grammar?
>
> Finally, is it smudra?
> If standard PA count over the number of countries Lojbanists arrive from=
=20
> can {ni'e vrici te'u} count over versatility of those countries?
>
>
>
>> Pierre
>> --
>> The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
>> The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing=20
>> snave.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This parses under camxes and jbofi'e:<br><br>lo jbopre pu =
jmaji lo vei ni'e vrici te'u gugde<br><br>...But don't ask me what it means=
.<br><br>El jueves, 30 de octubre de 2014 09:17:05 UTC-4, la gleki escribi=
=C3=B3:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.=
8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-10-30 15:51 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscat=
ed-mailto=3D"DT9fVpg4fykJ" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return =
true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">ph...@bezitopo.or=
g</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bord=
er-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Thursday, October 30, 2014 1=
3:41:29 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<br>
&gt; lo jbopre pu jmaji lo sofybakni purdi lo vrici gugde<br>
&gt; Lojbanists gathered a garden arriving from various countries.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think this example is broken since {lo vrici gugde} or {lo gugde poi=
<br>
&gt; vrici} can describe even one country various in vrici2.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I suppose that somehow we need to show that there were different from =
each<br>
&gt; other.<br>
&gt; Is it just {noi simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u nalsimsa} or can we use {ni'e vr=
ici}<br>
&gt; here?<br>
<br>
</span>I'd say {lo ficysi'u gugde} or {loi ficysi'u gugde}.<br></blockquote=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><span><br>
&gt; If {ni'e} then how does it work under official grammar?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; {lo jbopre pu jmaji lo ni'e vrici boi gugde} doesn't parse officially.=
 Then<br>
&gt; what?<br>
<br>
</span>{boi} terminates a string of letters or numbers. I don't see a termi=
nator for<br>
{ni'e}. Try {vau}. If that doesn't work, we need a terminator for {ni'e}.<b=
r></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is to be expanded by the parser to&nb=
sp;</div><div><div>([lo jbopre KU] [CU {pu jmaji} {&lt;(=C2=B9ni'e vrici TE=
hU=C2=B9) BOI&gt; &lt;lo gugde KU&gt;} VAU])</div></div><div><br></div><div=
>However, nothing works. The question is. If this parse is okay can I use i=
t even before approving by LLG? Can it be accepted as a known bug?</div><di=
v>Or is it an intended limitation of the grammar?</div><div><br></div><div>=
Finally, is it smudra?</div><div>If standard PA count over the number of co=
untries Lojbanists arrive from can {ni'e vrici te'u} count over versatility=
 of those countries?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Pierre<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.<br>
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave=
.<br>
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