Received: from mail-pd0-f189.google.com ([209.85.192.189]:45763) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkz1X-0007JG-Ed for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:33:11 -0800 Received: by mail-pd0-f189.google.com with SMTP id fp1sf1511532pdb.16 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:33:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PP6wC5AmqUC0JXmsNMk0AA3/fP6mDO+vHiQ6meMD3Mc=; b=iOIbv5s8IWJMrgCT2PeXurD8z5kqrUhkuYBBZK18F3J7CvPWdgm3AeKuwc0OLW1s/E qEX8I/IicqTOcOtWaOiWSJLSUZTH4i9abqr1/3+Cd5g/EhPssc0MOmYZ1Qa6V2xmGVSu eMah9rd1x6HscdOlLS/UPcR7qfI/L92rC9kXn5CdmDGUuCj+zjRV1tI3iihERMXYiQba wTCuk6PaTpqWGPsozJVKTFoq1xSKqa0wYwN1jhWvPrk5q8TTxwsW/iop/drQoOfJ0ftw etGopFillrcSjJ8US2J+7X9mLVavz5q5GeUaFvPPNTHmkSfWPpNYqY5hGjEHD6QaO2Yp FQlA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PP6wC5AmqUC0JXmsNMk0AA3/fP6mDO+vHiQ6meMD3Mc=; b=0C4Pq74NodgtJo/zRu73wR3294vf44zZxdELeQy8JeyYUm5I8AmGN8zZVfi07SUXgh Lv7NUJjgAKXE/hm6IFjS1P4s7p3QamvHySTX3OcKqv6gYDSQ+oc/N7kvk4F2RWcttgBG yDq6rs+zZzhx72hN7wp1Oqo4kxk+ZSKmN817iNY9G1/vluIPx6u4/PaX7HnMf7hyWDi+ wxyebClE8sOaq02Pyvt0vwGiGll8WdJLF/a650CuXDJmNoY+TK9SHIeKKis8CVp6OE3V BGPTWEfRgbwk2WZkwZu7lCNe6/LuLItCu8vm7t1h+OMd/uHNlLvTFjBmKZxupc4KdSIU v5jw== X-Received: by 10.140.84.21 with SMTP id k21mr61696qgd.6.1414949581090; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:33:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.83.21 with SMTP id i21ls2472798qgd.66.gmail; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.82.75 with SMTP id g69mr1141qgd.9.1414949580855; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: phma@bezitopo.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <11515679.0XVSvhUjgQ@caracal> References: <5bf2774f-1cad-4603-8fa5-d4d96f3f3fed@googlegroups.com> <11515679.0XVSvhUjgQ@caracal> Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW5dIERvZXMgTG9qYmFuIGhhdmUgYW4gZXF1aXZhbGVudCBvZiDokKwv?= =?UTF-8?B?66eML+S4hyAoMTAgdGhvdXNhbmQpPw==?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1146_1232068180.1414949580367" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_1146_1232068180.1414949580367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:33:21 PM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Friday, October 24, 2014 23:36:18 Zilong Lee wrote:=20 > > I'm a native Mandarin speaker. In East Asia, we have different number= =20 > > scales than the West, especially when the number gets bigger than 10=20 > > thousand, we use another word, namely '=E8=90=AC/=E4=B8=87(wan4)' in Ch= inese, '=EB=A7=8C/=E8=90=AC(man)'=20 > in=20 > > Korean and '=E4=B8=87'(man) in Japanese(I'm not sure whether it exists = in other=20 > > East Asian languages like Vietnamese and Mongolian, etc.), instead of= =20 > > keeping using thousand. So to a Chinese/Korean/Japanese ear, '17=20 > thousand'=20 > > sounds very confusing.=20 > >=20 > > If Lojban is truly culturally neutral, I think we should have an=20 > equivalent=20 > > word of 10-thousand. Is it already there? or that it has never been=20 > thought=20 > > about?=20 > > Loglan had a word for 100 and 1000, `ma` and `mo` respectively. You could= =20 string them together to get multiples. So `mama` would mean 10,000. I am=20 surprised to see nothing like this was brought over to Lojban ? =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1146_1232068180.1414949580367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:33:21 PM UTC-4, Pi= erre Abbat wrote:
On Friday, Oc= tober 24, 2014 23:36:18 Zilong Lee wrote:
> I'm a native Mandarin speaker. In East Asia, we have different num= ber
> scales than the West, especially when the number gets bigger than = 10
> thousand, we use another word, namely '=E8=90=AC/=E4=B8=87(wan4)' = in Chinese, '=EB=A7=8C/=E8=90=AC(man)' in
> Korean and '=E4=B8=87'(man) in Japanese(I'm not sure whether it ex= ists in other
> East Asian languages like Vietnamese and Mongolian, etc.), instead= of
> keeping using thousand. So to a Chinese/Korean/Japanese ear, '17 t= housand'
> sounds very confusing.
>=20
> If Lojban is truly culturally neutral, I think we should have an e= quivalent
> word of 10-thousand. Is it already there? or that it has never bee= n thought
> about?


Loglan had a word for 100 and 1000, `m= a` and `mo` respectively. You could string them together to get multiples. = So `mama` would mean 10,000. I am surprised to see nothing like this was br= ought over to Lojban ?

 

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