Received: from mail-pd0-f183.google.com ([209.85.192.183]:46866) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XkzoP-0007RV-EC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:23:41 -0800 Received: by mail-pd0-f183.google.com with SMTP id y13sf1519066pdi.10 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:23:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2dqCfh0w7IHQqkLRYNILrcwcIuGsTPS3F45HwkGb/3A=; b=G19VCauRHKOdGGTSNaeC71K/nBjsjGB4G/Q1vqBSsk/5YIgn4mWLhON0OhWJkDNDui uDrFvjZY6hT7+S12WLc4xGfsBWYvo3Lh/mmVnVZsXgOATzpJntfQWNZfv8Kvx+fR1Z4b A7tLYXWL/P9FkJY5nc4Wcx3i0Wwr+WPYlenH8U+7o+rQEH0rSKfpI2/B3sBWmRXw+O+K 7cMdDCxMzqR6F67bwwGjs8ooWZL8G/t7dQliNJplFyfcT2OwuFkRDWzF896T1HjtDKKx 9gMptD09Ar2vq2HdZOV6zBbj50l8g+K56KUQ822P/KCxVemM2iAmHIsRgeeunLFDddiq QRog== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2dqCfh0w7IHQqkLRYNILrcwcIuGsTPS3F45HwkGb/3A=; b=IqDav1eU31TaZj8vefCWzazhiUpvGpbz28IC5PkH3TwYSBITyScTcz9XVObWHgqKYf Lqe6jClRbgXodX06JeIB6JftwXZOdiM3Yhv/wmdG8uUYJ7+yjxQHeetGczB+mSM6JaSN 5fNLm2v8zfHrz0T6jTb7DSHxqvYPp2sMAbxFErSUHikYIvh2S7iyzheB+a4sCsrc+p0h PQ08IpZ6NeC1pVPwdNepa4c//X7qOT48cynDqCCp0XOY4+Wbu8ZThi18FNfAvDsieWVY 9+0VFkfEla8NayxCfOTxJuVLQX2plS8Y716ga5yM6GRJmoIo9lrLsPcJyqLvJeevQcQK rF5w== X-Received: by 10.140.17.69 with SMTP id 63mr3222qgc.10.1414952611080; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:23:31 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.46.102 with SMTP id j93ls2441993qga.30.gmail; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.91.118 with SMTP id y109mr29869qgd.3.1414952610818; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <511807d7-9059-4a29-a612-aae62188d316@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1195_386202683.1414952610260" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_1195_386202683.1414952610260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:51:26 PM UTC-4, selpa'i wrote: > > Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that exist do > not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world. > > One the big advantages of natural language is connotation --they can use the same (short) word for different meanings. e.g. a `bus` for transporting people vs a `bus` for transporting data in computer hardware. There is a related concept between the two, but they are very different things. Lojban doesn't seem to work well for creating a single word for such disparate things. (maybe it could but people tend not to?) It also kind of shame that there isn't a way to speak in abbreviated forms, e.g. if their were a two part word "vehicle-bus" and another "computer-bus", we could just use "bus" once we set forth the context as "vehicle" or "computer". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1195_386202683.1414952610260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:51:26 PM UTC-4, selp= a'i wrote:
Simply put, there ar= en't enough words, and the few words that exist do=20
not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world.


One the big advantages of natural = language is connotation --they can use the same (short) word for different = meanings.  e.g. a `bus` for transporting people vs a `bus` for transpo= rting data in computer hardware. There is a related concept between the two= , but they are very different things. Lojban doesn't seem to work well for = creating a single word for such disparate things. (maybe it could but peopl= e tend not to?)

It also kind of shame that there i= sn't a way to speak in abbreviated forms, e.g. if their were a two part wor= d "vehicle-bus" and another "computer-bus", we could just use "bus" once we= set forth the context as "vehicle" or "computer".

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