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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ej8si226023wib.3.2014.11.02.10.36.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; Received: by mail-wi0-x236.google.com with SMTP id d1so4777118wiv.9 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:36:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.102.135 with SMTP id fo7mr11379122wib.79.1414953412582; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 10:36:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5bf2774f-1cad-4603-8fa5-d4d96f3f3fed@googlegroups.com> <11515679.0XVSvhUjgQ@caracal> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:36:52 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW5dIERvZXMgTG9qYmFuIGhhdmUgYW4gZXF1aXZhbGVudCBvZiDokKwv?= =?UTF-8?B?66eML+S4hyAoMTAgdGhvdXNhbmQpPw==?= From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444728f87e0ae0506e48364 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d0444728f87e0ae0506e48364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable loglan had other problems with them namely that those words had multiple meaning and a pause rule had to be ilmplemented. mi'a discussed that ,see loglanists mailing list archives. 2014-11-02 20:33 GMT+03:00 TR NS : > > > On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:33:21 PM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Friday, October 24, 2014 23:36:18 Zilong Lee wrote: >> > I'm a native Mandarin speaker. In East Asia, we have different number >> > scales than the West, especially when the number gets bigger than 10 >> > thousand, we use another word, namely '=E8=90=AC/=E4=B8=87(wan4)' in C= hinese, >> '=EB=A7=8C/=E8=90=AC(man)' in >> > Korean and '=E4=B8=87'(man) in Japanese(I'm not sure whether it exists= in other >> > East Asian languages like Vietnamese and Mongolian, etc.), instead of >> > keeping using thousand. So to a Chinese/Korean/Japanese ear, '17 >> thousand' >> > sounds very confusing. >> > >> > If Lojban is truly culturally neutral, I think we should have an >> equivalent >> > word of 10-thousand. Is it already there? or that it has never been >> thought >> > about? >> >> > Loglan had a word for 100 and 1000, `ma` and `mo` respectively. You could > string them together to get multiples. So `mama` would mean 10,000. 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loglan had other problems with them namely that those word= s had multiple meaning and a pause rule had to be ilmplemented. mi'a di= scussed that ,see loglanists mailing list archives.

2014-11-02 20:33 GMT+03:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:


On Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:33:2= 1 PM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On F= riday, October 24, 2014 23:36:18 Zilong Lee wrote:
> I'm a native Mandarin speaker. In East Asia, we have different= number
> scales than the West, especially when the number gets bigger than = 10
> thousand, we use another word, namely '=E8=90=AC/=E4=B8=87(wan= 4)' in Chinese, '=EB=A7=8C/=E8=90=AC(man)' in
> Korean and '=E4=B8=87'(man) in Japanese(I'm not sure w= hether it exists in other
> East Asian languages like Vietnamese and Mongolian, etc.), instead= of
> keeping using thousand. So to a Chinese/Korean/Japanese ear, '= 17 thousand'
> sounds very confusing.
>=20
> If Lojban is truly culturally neutral, I think we should have an e= quivalent
> word of 10-thousand. Is it already there? or that it has never bee= n thought
> about?


Loglan had a word for 100 and 1= 000, `ma` and `mo` respectively. You could string them together to get mult= iples. So `mama` would mean 10,000. I am surprised to see nothing like this= was brought over to Lojban ?

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