Received: from mail-ob0-f187.google.com ([209.85.214.187]:65288) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XlSia-0007pX-CX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:33 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f187.google.com with SMTP id wp18sf1851560obc.4 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=L8HL10r9lF+p3H5F6iV5++Rbbz0twSo4vTeoQvcxUws=; b=vEiZfmLaUwX2F14jjSUb12wWJF7OIV4v05ZCwasm4knDuT+TsKCrapUnCs+z+TWStO asONSqPWYZYK2NDbMhvZQMymWwZwkjieww7DGdzJ7zGX37OyQnNZNGMFwrzPi5gh2RoP /ZfT6JGi72D+8na6WdkbWsKqvMRgEQPbmHRzFvbR5E8OwdaOglxf6Nxhi/zegSpGQIjg hWNKtr8McAAWqpBBRyuUYuY0nfneKORq893MJS5tJP5VduILk4ExVbYd8KCRaEtMzoh3 BimF0g6VLjSqQnh2qNTBAYDWr5W+OAxZ4RQB7RYnyKGc6RZ49eDFdd6YVzwCHu5Gwrpi HaLQ== X-Received: by 10.50.77.6 with SMTP id o6mr161469igw.8.1415063726236; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:26 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.160.211 with SMTP id j202ls1252312ioe.43.gmail; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:25 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.67.24.101 with SMTP id ih5mr10389193pad.44.1415063725951; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.24]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id yr4si2328076pab.1.2014.11.03.17.15.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: none (google.com: mbays@sdf.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=192.94.73.24; Received: from thegonz.net (d24-141-9-29.home.cgocable.net [24.141.9.29]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sA41FK34002074 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 01:15:21 GMT Received: from martin by thegonz.net with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XlSha-0003RD-8D for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 20:14:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 20:14:30 -0500 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2 Message-ID: <20141104011430.GB27496@gonzales> References: <20141018233648.GA29040@gonzales> <20141021010639.GB11705@gonzales> <20141022002214.GD25753@gonzales> <544D68A0.8000402@gmail.com> <20141028024248.GB6097@gonzales> <544FB6F3.5010301@gmail.com> <20141030014348.GP4023@gonzales> <54523459.3080700@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54523459.3080700@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: taske User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: mbays@sdf.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Thursday, 2014-10-30 at 13:51 +0100 - Ilmen : > On 30/10/2014 02:43, Martin Bays wrote: > >> SE ba X =3D xoi ke'a SE balvi X vau > >> se pi'o X =3D xoi X se pilno fi ke'a vau > >> SE ka'a X =3D xoi fasnu fa ke'a jo'u lo nu X SE klama vau > >> fau X =3D xoi fasnu fa ke'a jo'u X vau > >> (Here {ke'a} stands for the outer bridi.) > > I don't think it's clear that every tag permits such a definition. > > e.g. I don't think {no roi} does. > What's wrong with {broda xoi ke'a rapli li no} =E2=86=92 {lo nu broda cu = rapli=20 > li no}? If {broda xoi ke'a rapli li no} is taken to mean {da fasnu gi'e nu broda kei gi'e rapli li no}, then we have something of a contradiction - surely no da ge rapli li no gi fasnu? --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlRYKHYACgkQULC7OLX7LNbwsACeKdwe9zV9iowZotq1BEJho+l9 8wwAoL1eXuzurbeIhaaY9g52h/nHRQ9p =nfxZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD--