Received: from mail-ig0-f192.google.com ([209.85.213.192]:60062) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn5sA-0004fG-GY for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:16:14 -0800 Received: by mail-ig0-f192.google.com with SMTP id h15sf1032938igd.19 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:16:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mQCMKA+PODylIhG/mbIJ/oT7hkABf2JOgFWXD/rybTQ=; b=kTshIIt3FB5WqjkdAlSP9cO0EuhuocNo0EUO4QSR7CowfNxRQ4dgmFJ40eCf8/YnvJ Qb8gZWVMFmUeSGds1N5MvHegLhDfx7pb7DGcpc6lOO60mlHx2874uiyA7Zy/soNJOJ4c roJm0DVW4CFV89lW2usOisV63KJ1RKSa0238dqxCLwsXdbbLTrE/Vmv/lU+tlJQAlxUk ykQHe10LrZBY4Ig771J7pa0gldK4cjvkS9BSslBdQM3EMpbnmqjusWzQHbK3htRIE8sq 36EKe6rYnu47MhUR+pJHXMb1T+o/cPCLkR8NPHpgcUBoAOrEXix6f0lMF8K/a1tZXbFw GKBQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mQCMKA+PODylIhG/mbIJ/oT7hkABf2JOgFWXD/rybTQ=; b=qkj/q5okW814065nKyJaRc5bh5E3Pwsg0wVm5JldWovf/TkqKuSSalt0K0TLjsQ+4/ kjGCgpvjrzg0duyUyfCTBiHi5Qy+b0f38a/Lhu0QL1WgFhnYKbpCbO2ghL7i7eZiEq32 pTgYHULGGDgqxSMpxH29B36pJB0EqZLM4+ODOtHWZ00ZE4f3bS6tSzo4+zaPM1S1ISUZ AidSkNMm2a347oMgEbRm7x0p78kBJ//Rqr/yBhE+gyZ4mPUZPuJxZ+geLgDuRebs0Hmi k//Bh59McD0R78JfqsfAY27MLusvucNzYsUPpSitvjXDY0eqY0sBJdLUBwI4GDVMrsIk 8Z7g== X-Received: by 10.140.36.231 with SMTP id p94mr1264qgp.13.1415452564264; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:16:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.42.100 with SMTP id b91ls1106548qga.89.gmail; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:16:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.95.85 with SMTP id h79mr517qge.25.1415452563899; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:16:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 05:16:03 -0800 (PST) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <3ba6753d-105d-4717-bc28-70d2e643aa38@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_280_1718947447.1415452563641" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_280_1718947447.1415452563641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:33:24 PM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 06:51:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: > > Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that > > exist do not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world. > > I would say it's a mixture of lack of words and lack of phrasal > idiom. > > Frankly, though, I consider the self-similarity of existing words, > and the vast array of accidental tongue twisters, to be more serious > problems than the lack of vocab. The language is *physically* hard > to speak, to an extent that is distinctly unpleasent. > > I was wondering if you could elaborate on that. And what do you think can be done about it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_280_1718947447.1415452563641 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:33:24 PM UTC-4, Robi= n Powell wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26,= 2014 at 06:51:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote:
> Simply put, there aren't enough words, and the few words that
> exist do not enable us to make nuanced descriptions of the world.

I would say it's a mixture of lack of words and lack of phrasal
idiom.

Frankly, though, I consider the self-similarity of existing words,
and the vast array of accidental tongue twisters, to be more serious
problems than the lack of vocab.  The language is *physically* har= d
to speak, to an extent that is distinctly unpleasent.


I was wondering if you could elaborate= on that. And what do you think can be done about it?
 

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