Received: from mail-oi0-f63.google.com ([209.85.218.63]:60692) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XnaJX-0000bQ-9C for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:46:32 -0800 Received: by mail-oi0-f63.google.com with SMTP id e131sf927902oig.8 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HTQOPcSv30T055MVMthV7bNljaE5rHhlRn4G1FdlTkQ=; b=OfPe+JrYa45mzwXhcyqbkIYgUVPEPQkdYOz4VqgwC7J8FNnIX3sti5ne+dobdPJoxb cTSE+KBnuzInsu9Bn7/f3fvM/oU5eKv4+xP8E07deAI59iMPjU5NXVLtYKQ75AHFJZYT /pn8NLWPW3RkyiJP3gIyJfHMvsd+6uhPXWqxtsR/a1YxU2qwG/Tm1Rqj4uqNavJzH6LZ 6YIEhiXwxBa00Ur+ey56wwsaJYA47aI2BY2HJO5xo0sQJCeBtM9yynwF4akpg8dbs5Ho mdnj8TcNzkeFLC/BzWtCs8Re/jt+RzAlzDD8XCBFMN4WlZhM9+z92rXIJiYoRDTeA6za X6vg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HTQOPcSv30T055MVMthV7bNljaE5rHhlRn4G1FdlTkQ=; b=swoNsHKwBVzTVLjXyhLV5ygGAJnevlbH3kGpEx0m4SRef87vbojVmpzoIMl7dWJJ8I fzwW4I0rdpA+2CMUKP1ppmksbdhPbj8T0QVjMJOzndvyoOrNgiWmt50yYx/kYVdssmJw RC1rI+IvcBzXAmc0PIbOwrCsVJbM7EpsUyiKNC9sXbSQBoI2yRJ+ZCwpvv4251x6GPgK 9eHXBNwq2dXFG2EuYof7YN1G54bKYhEBgLEtbp3vgFAk5aG6eVS88VhdQKLUrxoaSZHG +A+WBgW+d5WUd1I1w06sC9xF+OefKgdwL+MaG1pZ/29u/W1XTDPlFGAQKig6pavZp5lZ YeBA== X-Received: by 10.140.20.175 with SMTP id 44mr419811qgj.4.1415569581216; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.94.193 with SMTP id g59ls1650067qge.75.gmail; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.94.212 with SMTP id g78mr274611qge.0.1415569580972; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:46:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:46:20 -0800 (PST) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <111f4a53-a184-4d84-879e-5cad6d3f1a53@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <544D34B1.7000000@gmx.de> <20141026183320.GD13145@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <3ba6753d-105d-4717-bc28-70d2e643aa38@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban's Biggest Problem or Why Still Nobody Speaks It MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2561_627516887.1415569580581" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_2561_627516887.1415569580581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:54:55 PM UTC-5, stevo wrote: > > Or at least a specific phrase that means 'traffic light', just as English > uses not a single word, but a phrase. > > Maybe that's the kind of construct Lojban needs --a way to use two (or more) words together that have a specific (gestalt?) meaning rather then a metaphorical one. Yet I don't see how the grammar would allow it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_2561_627516887.1415569580581 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:54:55 PM UTC-5, ste= vo wrote:
Or at least a specific phrase = that means 'traffic light', just as English uses not a single word, but a p= hrase. 

 
Maybe that's the kind of constru= ct Lojban needs --a way to use two (or more) words together that have a spe= cific (gestalt?) meaning rather then a metaphorical one. Yet I don't see ho= w the grammar would allow it.

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