Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:59118) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XnuAD-0005Ms-Ff for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:13 -0800 Received: by mail-lb0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f15sf671069lbj.26 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XnhznDg1HK0yNARPhXQkaRZ1xQPWdn+k1kzhZstXTMU=; b=HmLzEObjFzr/Xl0FuQdTh48+M8BotSOAOQd7xaJJXrBFPIW5jfe/VH+SD2KWxaq6sM brCD99QaDVzmzRrG3JHk8X2KImVBu2mXBJxI+zZP2LD07egoyEPVJjUmSrrwBXjGWzhl rMSbF/VF1Q0B73Zna6A/5d8z8f6JLspJze6U4F0A8mH6QLyltTpnp+hKp316G3uBqrxb uD3h/F1lWTWLDaHCEXtmuNPaPtM+B86Z0H6VcgWEXr038AurueiXmUOmYhWuKDTdE+B9 o0v4TDjGyWFZ3pr4y85fctmoww8kW1z28dzeYLbAXfrWzDg98GZj+ffsXLylSV+30A2+ U2PQ== X-Received: by 10.152.36.40 with SMTP id n8mr27599laj.23.1415645881894; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.87.225 with SMTP id bb1ls390220lab.47.gmail; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.151.38 with SMTP id un6mr1689424lbb.0.1415645880941; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jw5si213398wid.2.2014.11.10.10.58.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f; Received: by mail-wi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id ex7so11622190wid.14 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.235.135 with SMTP id um7mr3491023wjc.1.1415645880829; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9c52fa78-dbab-4191-ae61-852c5f1b6dff@googlegroups.com> References: <9c52fa78-dbab-4191-ae61-852c5f1b6dff@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:58:00 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: se klani be lo kafkylerfu From: Gleki Arxokuna To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01419f9adacedc050785bd11 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e01419f9adacedc050785bd11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-11-10 21:38 GMT+03:00 TR NS : > On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:08:02 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >> >> >> Okay, I thought you were talking about signal to noise ratio. >> As for Chinese being aesthetically not pleasing then this was certainly >> a biased poll. Then why would >1 billion of speakers of various dialects >> still use it? Why won't they start speaking let's say English instead? :D >> > > 300 million have --and learning a new language is not an easy thing to do. > If you read Chinese polls you would certainly find them saying that English is not aesthetically pleasing. The Chinese find English as having too many consonants and too many consonant clusters. It's hard for them to learn this language. Obviously harder that Korean or Japanese. But since you were searching English polls no wonder that they are in favor of English. Search Chinese polls and you'll find the opposite opinion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e01419f9adacedc050785bd11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2014-11-10 21:38 GMT+03:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>= :
On Mo= nday, November 10, 2014 2:08:02 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:

Okay, I thought you were talking about signal to noise rat= io.
As for Chinese being aesthetically not pleasing =C2=A0then th= is was certainly a biased poll. Then why would >1 billion of speakers of= various dialects still use it? Why won't they start speaking let's= say English instead? :D

300 million have --and learning a new language is not an easy = thing to do.

If you read Chines= e polls you would certainly find them saying that English is not aesthetica= lly pleasing.
The Chinese find English as having too many consona= nts and too many consonant clusters. It's hard for them to learn this l= anguage. Obviously harder that Korean or Japanese.

But since you were searching English polls no wonder that they are in favo= r of English.
Search Chinese polls and you'll find the opposi= te opinion.

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