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On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:36:48 PM UTC-5, And Rosta wrote:

I realize it's not one specific poll. If your observation about consistent 
> results has some substantive basis, then it's lots of specific polls.
>
> I suspect there is no such thing as a consistent result across nonbullshit 
> polls about worst sounding languages. But I am interested in being directed 
> to a range of studies that prove my suspicion wrong.
>
It the results were always all over the place then that would clearly be 
the case. But certain languages do seem to get consistent results. For 
instance Italian is frequently one the the highest rankings. Arabic get 
very mixed results --some love it, but others hate it (however I think some 
of it has to do with sociopolitical issues of the day). French does pretty 
well too. And Japanese gets a fair amount of consistent praise. Some 
examples:

http://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding-languages/ 
http://www.debate.org/forums/Society/topic/36130/
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5015558/1/
http://www.city-data.com/forum/world/1447488-most-annoying-sounding-language.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/world/649599-best-sounding-language-2.html
http://www.daytranslations.com/blog/2014/10/top-ten-sexiest-languages-world-5611
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110727163439AAIaek9

In any case, its not just that there are aesthetic considerations. There is 
also the simple fact that the `c/j`, `x` and `h` sounds are over 
represented as a simple statistic of internal comparison to other sounds in 
Lojban. Why should that be?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:36:48 PM UTC-5, And=
 Rosta wrote:<div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;=
margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<p dir=3D"ltr">I realize it's not one specific poll. If your observation ab=
out consistent results has some substantive basis, then it's lots of specif=
ic polls.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I suspect there is no such thing as a consistent result acro=
ss nonbullshit polls about worst sounding languages. But I am interested in=
 being directed to a range of studies that prove my suspicion wrong.</p></b=
lockquote><div>It the results were always all over the place then that woul=
d clearly be the case. But certain languages do seem to get consistent resu=
lts. For instance Italian is frequently one the the highest rankings. Arabi=
c get very mixed results --some love it, but others hate it (however I thin=
k some of it has to do with sociopolitical issues of the day). French does =
pretty well too. And Japanese gets a fair amount of consistent praise. Some=
 examples:</div><div><br></div><div>http://www.thetoptens.com/best-sounding=
-languages/&nbsp;<br></div></div><div>http://www.debate.org/forums/Society/=
topic/36130/<br></div><div>http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/50155=
58/1/<br></div><div>http://www.city-data.com/forum/world/1447488-most-annoy=
ing-sounding-language.html<br></div><div>http://www.city-data.com/forum/wor=
ld/649599-best-sounding-language-2.html<br></div><div>http://www.daytransla=
tions.com/blog/2014/10/top-ten-sexiest-languages-world-5611<br></div><div>h=
ttps://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=3D20110727163439AAIaek9<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>In any case, its not just that there are aesthetic co=
nsiderations. There is also the simple fact that the `c/j`, `x` and `h` sou=
nds are over represented as a simple statistic of internal comparison to ot=
her sounds in Lojban. Why should that be?</div><div><br></div></div>

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