Received: from mail-yk0-f192.google.com ([209.85.160.192]:63065) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo5hv-0003mI-Lp for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:49 -0800 Received: by mail-yk0-f192.google.com with SMTP id 131sf1619774ykp.19 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EwE7ja/rkYf7zOAJ+NVrI1GHDZjHLcGpNfqlBJDRvkY=; b=mivfJtmxXLjHbIMbNeeBm5McXRB/IxM8b+68LZE+C10suriL6gxR2C4WYH4u7Yn+NX 6oEJmXOnRHcdZPbuywvRDPJTofYeXrCXFSSB22S1NAvUTqwWr5b5LJ8OxDquExACsw9i j0/zitv24fBgC0K0u+o8CKHW6k8Dl5UWPiRqqnxxbDFO841iRQmXDXq3WdNVTX5iqGkB erSW97Mq02tH/caoeNWQrLpyek9FJaTi2zsHUbAC1E8ZLJn3y9oPtCwxAsTrFSmaBNp8 NOgd9g5pOl6edstpvAMmmsBCaTG0FYNxRP0Furumr5HQiLzRP7zZcSK71ZQuzDkz4dcj 0plQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EwE7ja/rkYf7zOAJ+NVrI1GHDZjHLcGpNfqlBJDRvkY=; b=eVPEc7OqR25RnLrqmKXVaC8sb8VedN1CCF8gWlYFyiXt/3boYo/fue4Kl4J1mu83Gx o8fJXcZhduudQ8751DaigiidYtXOZx8qdaSw2bcjtB+z5EEIOIhJP3CdEDnQ2QmXvZFn 5E3nITnvolhDwMZ3GceuwQR4yh8jpPkQiRM661YPLCeWvEZZgAxveZ/NGVgB0d8BCMbH 6itJdprpFSDFfxDM/djT4JLiUibhdVuDxCdA42QcjMNFvZIOQWelVxd+O+qHSlUnSqwD i+4I9qj/9M23nplwAN/IcNpBszkgi90dWR5hIrZTgP90ZPSxSHPQuCtGRClXxDlP+5Hk sW2w== X-Received: by 10.140.101.227 with SMTP id u90mr4132qge.18.1415690257141; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.104.83 with SMTP id z77ls2349838qge.0.gmail; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.100.201 with SMTP id s67mr187qge.34.1415690256874; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:17:36 -0800 (PST) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <01817a67-0775-4bb1-896c-d676a303f996@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <9c52fa78-dbab-4191-ae61-852c5f1b6dff@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: se klani be lo kafkylerfu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_243_1864875848.1415690256412" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_243_1864875848.1415690256412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Monday, November 10, 2014 1:58:03 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: > > > > 2014-11-10 21:38 GMT+03:00 TR NS >: > >> On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:08:02 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> >>> Okay, I thought you were talking about signal to noise ratio. >>> As for Chinese being aesthetically not pleasing then this was certainly >>> a biased poll. Then why would >1 billion of speakers of various dialects >>> still use it? Why won't they start speaking let's say English instead? :D >>> >> >> 300 million have --and learning a new language is not an easy thing to do. >> > > If you read Chinese polls you would certainly find them saying that > English is not aesthetically pleasing. > The Chinese find English as having too many consonants and too many > consonant clusters. It's hard for them to learn this language. Obviously > harder that Korean or Japanese. > > But since you were searching English polls no wonder that they are in > favor of English. > Search Chinese polls and you'll find the opposite opinion. > > So do you actually know Chinese? I tried to get a feel for the opinions of Chinese/Asian peoples on these matters but its hard to find anything on the Internet not being able to read their languages. Google translate wasn't helpful enough. Fortunately I do have a few Chinese and Japanese relatives so I can at least ask them for their opinion. Btw, my favorite sounding language is Arabic -- I am trying to be as objective as I possibly can be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_243_1864875848.1415690256412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Monday, November 10, 2014 1:58:03 PM UTC-5, la = gleki wrote:




I tried to get a f= eel for the opinions of Chinese/Asian peoples on these matters but its hard= to find anything on the Internet not being able to read their languages. G= oogle translate wasn't helpful enough. Fortunately I do have a few Chinese = and Japanese relatives so I can at least ask them for their opinion. <= /div>

Btw, my favorite sounding language is Arabic -- I = am trying to be as objective as I possibly can be.

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