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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el8si1179521wib.3.2014.11.12.22.22.27 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b; Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r20so7171146wiv.16 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:22:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.235.135 with SMTP id um7mr672255wjc.1.1415859747873; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:22:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <028332cf-3cd5-4ffe-b6be-4a44f48f5f38@googlegroups.com> <20141112191200.GA13899@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <3530e7a0-07d7-4422-8578-f15a1a30b0b7@googlegroups.com> <0502e7ec-3265-4493-8edc-770d86aa964d@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:22:27 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Justifying a command From: Gleki Arxokuna To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01419f9a52ebe70507b78971 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e01419f9a52ebe70507b78971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-11-12 23:39 GMT+03:00 Ian Johnson : > Still another approach with somewhat different semantics is > > {.i ko zukte lo ka ce'u pinxe lo ladru kei lo nu do binxo lo ka tsali} > If {ka} in zukte3 is assumed to again reference zukte1 then {i ko zukte lo ka pinxe lo ladru vau lo ka co'a tsali} is not that verbose. > Here you are insisting that they drink their milk and also that they have > the act of becoming strong as a goal in drinking their milk. > > mi'e la latro'a mu'o > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > >> A rather verbose approach which avoids the issue of {ko} scope entirely: >> >> .i mi minde do lo ka ce'u pinxe lo ladru kei mu'i lo nu mi djica lo nu do >> binxo lo ka tsali [kei kei noi lo nu pinxe cu rinka ke'a] >> >> mi'e la latro'a mu'o >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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2014-11-12 23:39 GMT+03:00 Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>:
Still= another approach with somewhat different semantics is

{.i ko = zukte lo ka ce'u pinxe lo ladru kei lo nu do binxo lo ka tsali}

If {ka} in zukte3 is assumed to again re= ference zukte1 then
{i ko zukte lo ka pinxe lo ladru vau lo ka co= 'a tsali}
is not that verbose.


Here you are insisting that they = drink their milk and also that they have the act of becoming strong as a go= al in drinking their milk.

mi'e la latro'a = mu'o

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:3= 7 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
A rather verbose approac= h which avoids the issue of {ko} scope entirely:

.i mi minde do lo k= a ce'u pinxe lo ladru kei mu'i lo nu mi djica lo nu do binxo lo ka = tsali [kei kei noi lo nu pinxe cu rinka ke'a]

mi'e la = latro'a mu'o

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