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[2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7si1495654qcz.3.2014.11.21.09.43.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231; Received: by mail-qg0-x231.google.com with SMTP id a108so3943093qge.8 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:43:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.224.4.133 with SMTP id 5mr8083084qar.37.1416591813178; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:43:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.82.137 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:43:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <62d04787-6a8a-4638-93cd-1934636f798e@googlegroups.com> References: <2543269.Oxfu9y96Cf@caracal> <62d04787-6a8a-4638-93cd-1934636f798e@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:43:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Let's create a word: Wasabi To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c22108d0fd9c050861fb0f X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c22108d0fd9c050861fb0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "vuasabi" would be no more difficult to pronounce than "voil=C3=A0!". stevo On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM, la .gusek. wrote: > Thank you for your answer! > > I've considered them but I have some problems: > > - stanrvasabi: The word "vasabi" seems more like a loan word of a loan > word than a loan word (from Japanese). "Wasabi" has the pronunciation > "uasabi" and not "vasabi" in it's original language, and since that is > possible in Lojban it seems a shame to modify it (maybe malglico even?= ). > - stanrvuasabi: "vua" seems difficult to pronounce and distinguish. Is > it though? Input here? > > Den fredagen den 21:e november 2014 kl. 12:34:38 UTC+1 skrev Pierre Abbat= : > >> On Friday, November 21, 2014 02:22:37 la .gusek. wrote: >> > "Wasabi" was more tricky. I chosed "stani" (stem) though, since this i= s >> the >> > part you actually eat (it's not a root nor a rhizome). "ua" is legal i= n >> > Lojban, and is the actual diphtong "w" refers to in japanese. The >> problem >> > though, is that I mistakenly created a stage-4 fu'ivla which obviously >> > never was my intention (since I forgot to add an initial consonant). >> > >> > So, I'm asking you to help create it! How would you like the word? Wha= t >> > initial consonant do you feel makes most sense/seems most natural? >> >> I'd say "stanrvasabi" or "stanrvuasabi". >> >> Pierre >> -- >> The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave. >> The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing >> snave. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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"vuasabi" would be no more difficult to pronounce = than "voil=C3=A0!".=C2=A0

stevo

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at = 11:34 AM, la .gusek. <gunnar_secret@hotmail.com> wro= te:
Thank you for your a= nswer!

I've considered them but I have some problems:
    stanrvasabi: The word "vasabi" seems more like a loan word of a = loan word than a loan word (from Japanese). "Wasabi" has the pron= unciation "uasabi" and not "vasabi" in it's origina= l language, and since that is possible in Lojban it seems a shame to modify= it (maybe malglico even?).
  • stanrvuasabi: "vua" seems dif= ficult to pronounce and distinguish. Is it though? Input here?
Den= fredagen den 21:e november 2014 kl. 12:34:38 UTC+1 skrev Pierre Abbat:
On Friday, Novem= ber 21, 2014 02:22:37 la .gusek. wrote:
> "Wasabi" was more tricky. I chosed "stani" (st= em) though, since this is the
> part you actually eat (it's not a root nor a rhizome). "u= a" is legal in
> Lojban, and is the actual diphtong "w" refers to in japa= nese. The problem
> though, is that I mistakenly created a stage-4 fu'ivla which o= bviously
> never was my intention (since I forgot to add an initial consonant= ).
>=20
> So, I'm asking you to help create it! How would you like the w= ord? What
> initial consonant do you feel makes most sense/seems most natural?

I'd say "stanrvasabi" or "stanrvuasabi".

Pierre
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The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing s= nave.

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