Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 11:19:17 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Let's create a word: Wasabi
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Are we so sure {stanruasabi} isn't a type-3 fu'ivla? The fu'ivla types are=
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just a convention anyway. I know the Book says the "tail" of a type-3=20
fu'ivla should start with a consonant, but a glide {ua} is _nearly_ a=20
consonant. Furthermore, syllable analysis (using camxes) gives us=20
{sta,nr,ua,sa,bi} which has that telltale consonantal syllable.

So I say {stanruasabi} is type-3 and fine. What do you think?

mu'o mi'e la durkavore

El viernes, 21 de noviembre de 2014 05:22:37 UTC-5, la .gusek. escribi=C3=
=B3:
>
> Hi,
>
> A while back I felt the need the loan "wasabi" and "sushi" into Lojban. S=
o=20
> I created these two words (they're both in jbovlaste now):
>
>> cidjrsuci: x1 is a quantity of sushi consisting of rice x2 and=20
>> ingredients x3
>> stanruasabi: x1 is wasabi (Wasabia japonica) in form x2 of variety x3
>>
>
> "Sushi" was straightforward. It had been used before, and it's the most=
=20
> logical form of "sushi" as a stage-3 fu'ivla.
>
> "Wasabi" was more tricky. I chosed "stani" (stem) though, since this is=
=20
> the part you actually eat (it's not a root nor a rhizome). "ua" is legal =
in=20
> Lojban, and is the actual diphtong "w" refers to in japanese. The problem=
=20
> though, is that I mistakenly created a stage-4 fu'ivla which obviously=20
> never was my intention (since I forgot to add an initial consonant).
>
> So, I'm asking you to help create it! How would you like the word? What=
=20
> initial consonant do you feel makes most sense/seems most natural?
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Are we so sure {stanruasabi} isn't a type-3 fu'ivla? The f=
u'ivla types are just a convention anyway. I know the Book says the "tail" =
of a type-3 fu'ivla should start with a consonant, but a glide {ua} is _nea=
rly_ a consonant. Furthermore, syllable analysis (using camxes) gives us {s=
ta,nr,ua,sa,bi} which has that telltale consonantal syllable.<br><br>So I s=
ay {stanruasabi} is type-3 and fine. What do you think?<br><br>mu'o mi'e la=
 durkavore<br><br>El viernes, 21 de noviembre de 2014 05:22:37 UTC-5, la .g=
usek. escribi=C3=B3:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;ma=
rgin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Hi,<br><br>A while back I felt the need the loan "wasabi" and "sus=
hi" into Lojban. So I created these two words (they're both in jbovlaste no=
w):<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:courier new,monospace">cidjrsuci: x<sub>1</sub> is a quantity of s=
ushi consisting of rice x<sub>2</sub> and ingredients x<sub>3</sub></span><=
br><span style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">stanruasabi: x<sub>1</=
sub> is wasabi (Wasabia japonica) in form x<sub>2</sub> of variety x<sub>3<=
/sub></span><br></blockquote><br><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif">"Sushi" wa=
s straightforward. It had been used before, and it's the most logical form =
of "sushi" as a stage-3 fu'ivla.<br><br>"Wasabi" was more tricky. I chosed =
"stani" (stem)</font> though, since this is the part you actually eat (it's=
 not a root nor a rhizome). "ua" is legal in Lojban, and is the actual diph=
tong "w" refers to in japanese. The problem though, is that I mistakenly cr=
eated a stage-4 fu'ivla which obviously never was my intention (since I for=
got to add an initial consonant).<br><br>So, I'm asking you to help create =
it! How would you like the word? What initial consonant do you feel makes m=
ost sense/seems most natural?<br></div></blockquote></div>

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