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Subject: Re: [lojban] ti'enai
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Interesting! How would you say this differs from "za'a la .djan. pu cinba 
la .alis."?

Den fredagen den 21:e november 2014 kl. 22:56:14 UTC+1 skrev xorxes:
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, April 19, 2014 9:48:33 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "ti'e nai" would mean "first hand knowledge" and "ba'a cu'i" "knowledge 
>>> that I'm getting right now", so sometimes they may both apply and sometimes 
>>> only one of them, or neither.
>>>
>>
>> Could you show an example where this ti'enai would be useful? 
>>
>
>   ti'e nai la djan pu cinba la alis
>   John did kiss Alice (I know because I was there, I'm not just repeating 
> someone else's gossip).
>  
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Interesting! How would you say this differs from "za'a la =
.djan. pu cinba la .alis."?<br><br>Den fredagen den 21:e november 2014 kl. =
22:56:14 UTC+1 skrev xorxes:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at =
11:46 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"=
_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"EEQhfI6m_HMJ" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'=
javascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true=
;">gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Saturday, April 19, 2014 9:48:33 PM UTC+4, xorxes wro=
te:<div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-lef=
t:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>"ti'e nai" would mean "first hand=
 knowledge" and "ba'a cu'i" "knowledge that I'm getting right now", so some=
times they may both apply and sometimes only one of them, or neither.</div>=
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>Could you show an =
example where this ti'enai would be useful?&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>&nbsp; ti'e nai la djan pu cinba la alis</div><div>&nbsp=
; John did kiss Alice (I know because I was there, I'm not just repeating s=
omeone else's gossip).</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>mu'o mi'e xorxes</div><di=
v><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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