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2014-11-22 17:14 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:56 AM, la .gusek. <gunnar_secret@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting! How would you say this differs from "za'a la .djan. pu cinb=
a
>> la .alis."?
>>
>
> The gloss for "za'a" suggests that the evidence for the claim is present.
> So "za'a" could be a combination of "ti'e nai" (first-hand evidence) with
> "ba'a cu'i" (evidence in the present).
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

wouldn't {za'a}  additionally mean "external evidence" and {ze'o} internal
evidence?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-11-22 17:14 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On=
 Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:56 AM, la .gusek. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:gunnar_secret@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gunnar_secret@hotmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Interesting! How would you say this differs from &quot;za&#39;a la .djan. =
pu cinba la .alis.&quot;?</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The =
gloss for &quot;za&#39;a&quot; suggests that the evidence for the claim is =
present. So &quot;za&#39;a&quot; could be a combination of &quot;ti&#39;e n=
ai&quot; (first-hand evidence) with &quot;ba&#39;a cu&#39;i&quot; (evidence=
 in the present).</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39=
;e xorxes</div></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>wo=
uldn&#39;t {za&#39;a} =C2=A0additionally mean &quot;external evidence&quot;=
 and {ze&#39;o} internal evidence?</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span cl=
ass=3D""><div><br></div></span></div></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div=
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