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Subject: Re: [lojban] Let's create a word: pseudo-paralysis/situational paralysis
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM, la .gusek. <gunnar_secret@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Since kakne denotes an innate capability,
>

"kakne" is for general capability, not necessarily innate. You can use "se
jinzi be lo ka kakne" for "innately capable of", or just more generally "se
jinzi" not just for capabilities but for any innate property.


> it doesn't really seem right to use narslutroka'e for translations of
> situations where fear paralyzes someone or where pain makes someone inhibit
> their own movement (for metaphorical constructs it doesn't matter as much,
> just append a pe'a). Also of course, the problem isn't a true lack of
> muscle-control but an unwillingness/strong emotional hinder/forgetfulness
> to do so.
>
> So would you create a word for these usages, and how would you go with it?
>

Perhaps you could distinguish "slutronarka'e" from "slutrofli".

And "cadgau" for a more general sense of "immobilize", "se cadgau" for
"immobilized by"?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM, la .gusek. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gunnar_secret@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gunnar_secret@hotma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><br>Since <span style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">kakne=
</span> denotes an innate capability, </div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>&quot;kakne&quot; is for general capability, not necessarily innate=
. You can use &quot;se jinzi be lo ka kakne&quot; for &quot;innately capabl=
e of&quot;, or just more generally &quot;se jinzi&quot; not just for capabi=
lities but for any innate property.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>it doesn&#39;t really seem right to use=
 <span style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">narslutroka&#39;e</span>=
 for translations of situations where fear paralyzes someone or where pain =
makes someone inhibit their own movement (for metaphorical constructs it do=
esn&#39;t matter as much, just append a <span style=3D"font-family:courier =
new,monospace">pe&#39;a</span>). Also of course, the problem isn&#39;t a tr=
ue lack of muscle-control but an unwillingness/strong emotional hinder/forg=
etfulness to do so.<br><br>So would you create a word for these usages, and=
 how would you go with it?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Perh=
aps you could distinguish &quot;slutronarka&#39;e&quot; from &quot;slutrofl=
i&quot;.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>And &quot;cadgau&quot; for a more g=
eneral sense of &quot;immobilize&quot;, &quot;se cadgau&quot; for &quot;imm=
obilized by&quot;?<br></div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</d=
iv><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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